Our unbelievably shit squad team players

[Olivier's xmas twist]

City will be better for sure, Aguero is one hell of a player.

Liverpool have invested and have a more suitable manager in charge so IMO wil be stronger, Spurs have no CL which will make them more of a threat.

More wooried about liverpool then spurs i think the Europa league will distract spurs alot tbh. As for the bit in bold, i don't think Ageuro will make city stronger 1 bit if Tevez leaves, if he does city are fucked in away tbh but id expect them to finish above us too.

But he has not done that for a number of years now and has shown no serious inclination or competence in doing that thusfar during this transfer window either through new signings or a change in tactics.

yep i agree, and part of me wants him gone but the other par feels even if he goes how much will really change while the same board is in charge. we'd still get PHW chatting rubbish the new manager doing thieir bidding.

maybe tactiallty wise and mentally we could be better off but fincially we'd be the same you'd feel.

[Power n Glory]

anyone who says 'its only preseason' deserves a smack.

they were probably the same people who said 'its only the carling cup final' but look at the effect that loss had on us. it wrecked our season.

a winning mentality is a winning mentality and a top club will never say 'its only a friendly'. a winning club wants to win every game. you dont see man utd or fergie ever coming out and saying 'its only a friendly'. they wanna win every game and winning is instilled from the top right to the bottom.

Good point. The mentality of the team has been overlooked by a few posters. Just because we're starting a fresh season, doesn't mean the slate is wiped clean. Just like the season before last, these guys are troubled by our sudden collapse and it's very much in the back of their minds. There is no guarantee that they'll get over this. The poor form we saw last season has carried over to the preseason. We're seeing the same mistakes.

Some people don't overcome these sort of character flaws/mental blocks. Winning breeds winning and it's the same for losing. We were in the dirt last season and Wenger has to do something lift the teams hopes. We've got a run of big games coming up from the start of the season and if this bad run continues...

[Grebbo]

The mentality of the team isn't the problem. The mentality of the manager is the problem.

Wenger says finishing 4th is an achievement.

Wenger is a loser and is happy to be a loser.

If your manager at work let's you do fuck all during the day then you do fuck all.

[Toronto Gooner]

yep i agree, and part of me wants him gone but the other par feels even if he goes how much will really change while the same board is in charge. we'd still get PHW chatting rubbish the new manager doing thieir bidding.

So now it is the Board to blame? Sorry but the team on the pitch; the squad behind it; the reserve and youth set-up supporting them; and the philosophy underpinning it all are the sole responsibility of the manager. If there is any blame to be directed toward the board it is that they have not stood up to Wenger enough.

[Toronto Gooner]

Good point. The mentality of the team has been overlooked by a few posters. Just because we're starting a fresh season, doesn't mean the slate is wiped clean. Just like the season before last, these guys are troubled by our sudden collapse and it's very much in the back of their minds. There is no guarantee that they'll get over this. The poor form we saw last season has carried over to the preseason. We're seeing the same mistakes.

Some people don't overcome these sort of character flaws/mental blocks. Winning breeds winning and it's the same for losing. We were in the dirt last season and Wenger has to do something lift the teams hopes. We've got a run of big games coming up from the start of the season and if this bad run continues...

Agree P_n_G. I shudder at the prospect of this squad playing the first 5 games of the season with Fabregas and Nasri gone. If that sequence goes bad, will we be seeing the club in the bottom half of the table for the bulk of the season?

[Letters]

Agree P_n_G. I shudder at the prospect of this squad playing the first 5 games of the season with Fabregas and Nasri gone. If that sequence goes bad, will we be seeing the club in the bottom half of the table for the bulk of the season?

No.

[Darth Vela]

Good point. The mentality of the team has been overlooked by a few posters. Just because we're starting a fresh season, doesn't mean the slate is wiped clean. Just like the season before last, these guys are troubled by our sudden collapse and it's very much in the back of their minds. There is no guarantee that they'll get over this. The poor form we saw last season has carried over to the preseason. We're seeing the same mistakes.

Some people don't overcome these sort of character flaws/mental blocks. Winning breeds winning and it's the same for losing. We were in the dirt last season and Wenger has to do something lift the teams hopes. We've got a run of big games coming up from the start of the season and if this bad run continues...

True, I hadn't even considered that and if that's the case then Wenger doesn't have a fricking clue and should be straight out of the door, no questions asked.

I agree that we've seen Squillaci and Djourou carry on their form but our first choice CB partnership haven't actually conceded, they've started quite well as have other members of our team so as long as we don't keep on subbing Squillaci on at HT we'll be fine.

[Toronto Gooner]

No.

I hope that you are right. Letters. I sincerely hope that the players have the pride and professionalism necessary to succeed.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

So now it is the Board to blame? Sorry but the team on the pitch; the squad behind it; the reserve and youth set-up supporting them; and the philosophy underpinning it all are the sole responsibility of the manager. If there is any blame to be directed toward the board it is that they have not stood up to Wenger enough.

Well it its the board fault in away like you said for not standing up to AW and being happy with what he does. The team is not good enough because of the Manager that is fair but will the manager feel he has done wrong if no one tells him and who's job is that then Board.

[Niall_Quinn]

I sincerely hope that the players have the pride and professionalism necessary to succeed.

They've already got the money, why do they need professionalism and pride?