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they've won ten of the last twenty, dortmund with five - the closest here is chelsea or us compared to utd's 12.
i don't think it is solely about competition either. the technique of the league with its culture means just as much and pep would struggle to impose that in this country right now. there is also the chance to create a legacy (the 'big' players at bayern at hitting their 30's) built on their players coming through, which is something they have always been renowned for.
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If Pep wanted to build a lasting legacy then England would be a great place to start. We belittle Chelsea and City but if he were able to turn those clubs infrastructures around and get them bringing in young players, playing nice football and spending wisely, he'd have a lasting legacy there. Even with us he'd have a chance to propel us to a level we've never reached and with the FFP coming through, I think the league is need of a new coach to come through and win things with a different philosophy.
If Pep were to build a dominant side in Germany like how he did in Spain and they just steamroll over every opponent, it's not going to help his legacy or the profile of the league. A lot of people already say La Liga is uncompetitive and too easy. I always disagree with that because the lower teams like Sevilla, Valencia and Athletico are good but lack funding whilst Barca and Real are two superpowers that keep getting stronger. The league isn't weak, they're just too damn good because the world's best players are divided between two clubs. Now imagine the Bundesliga with one superpower team and a guy like Pep in charge who can spend more than his closest rivals. It just won't be competitive and I won't rate him as much as someone like Klopp.
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i know what we're like and we'll go on forever, so i'll leave it here.
this is an interesting read however
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/b...-bayern-munich
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Nah.
A true great who wants a challenge wouldn't be taking on managing Chelsea or City; that's easy street. Chelsea and City's infrastructure/youth system will always be 2nd rate because if success doesn't come now they just through money at the first team until it does. Success at those clubs will always be attributed to the amount of money pumped into them. Even UTD to a certain degree, although at least their funds have been primarily generated of the back of the club itself rather than a wealthy benefactor. On the back of years with not much success, Fergie took them from nothing to something. That's the measure of a true great.
AW had that (though seems determined to basically ruin his own legacy of late, I guess that's his own prerogative)
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But Bayern Munich? If we're going to berate Chelsea and City because they can throw funds around, Bayern can throw money around as well but there won't be anyone else in their league that can rival their spending power. The team that made it to the Champs League final wasn't cheap.
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Managers like Pep and Mourinho will only ever manage elite clubs.
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went for the somewhat easy option. they have one of the best squad's in europe, in fact its like deja vu barca. he'll have to go in there and sort some of the ego's out again, sell a few big timers etc then eventually they'll dominate football for a few years.
if he wanted a real challenge he'd have come to england. chelsea in turmoil, city squad weak by their standards, we're shite. but i think he's biding his time for united. didnt he have a meeting with fergie in new york 2 weeks ago? fergie probably told him he's retiring in 2-3 years. perfect time for pep to complete a project in germany then head over.
dortmund vs bayern will be the new barca vs madrid. cant wait.
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