Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
It's being called into question right now. Like it or not. When his story is told, this is part of the chapter that will be told and won't be brushed over. He's never successfully defended a title or won a the Champions League and that's going to put him down as one of the good managers but not elite. When polls are done on the greatest managers, he may come outside of the top 10 and that's a real shame. It's not a bad thing to be where he is but I always considered him as one of the elites and bragged when talking to other fans about his skill. That's just not the case anymore.

Clough had that period where he fell off but he also took that team to win the highest honour and was pretty dominant in his time. Wenger hasn't been dominant over Fergie, he's never won back to back titles as said and while we have the Invincible season, he has the Treble. They were on par at a certain period where it was a debate over who was better, it's not even a debate anymore, Fergie has gone clear of Wenger and surpassed him. We never used to praise Fergie in this way before when we were going head to head with his team. We always thought we had the better manager. Now we're admitting defeat. No shame in Wenger's record when you look at it but if it all ends tomorrow you get a sense that he didn't quite reach the heights we expected. In fact, I'm sure when he's retired and reflects back, he'll have regrets about not winning Europe as his peers have done. It's got to sting his ego a bit.
Exactly right, you can't not question a man's record when he's gone so long without delivering any success (half his Arsenal time), if he was that great he'd have reproduced something. In recent years he's been shown to be tactically inept, unable to adapt, unable to spot and fix problem areas in the team, unable to blend the different attributes in a team required for success.....in now way is any of that great

IMO he has way too many flaws in his management style to be considered great and his record doesn't make for great reading anymore either, he's been regularly out thought by managers of smaller clubs as well.