Giroud Discourse

[Power n Glory]

I said he might have been one. It obviously depended on what he went on to do and while keeping us in the top 4 in this era shouldn't be dismissed he hasn't continued the success he started, partly because of things outside his control like the billionaire owners, but he certainly could have done more and has failed to adapt to the current footballing climate.

There wasn't that sort of doubt 7 years ago. He's was considered the best in the business by most of us back then and now the tune has changed. Clough is still considered an all-time great even though the end of his career ended badly and in other sports, most boxers like Ali and Tyson are considered all-time greats even though their records usually nose dive as they get on.

It maybe revisionist (you're guilty of it too) but we're now looking back at Wenger's achievements because he hasn't hit the heights like others have. If he'd have won the Champs League at least and had a better record in Europe and maybe won a few domestic cups during the barren years, the money and change of football would be a valid excuse for his lack of success.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I said he might have been one. It obviously depended on what he went on to do and while keeping us in the top 4 in this era shouldn't be dismissed he hasn't continued the success he started, partly because of things outside his control like the billionaire owners, but he certainly could have done more and has failed to adapt to the current footballing climate.

Billionaire owners dont organise the team, drill them at defense, choose the tactics on the pitch and make the substitutions.

You cant help but mention them everytime there is a debate about Wenger on here. Its not an excuse anyone can use as to why he hasnt kept up with the pack. We dont have to spend the silly money that other teams have to keep us challenging, we couldve signed plenty of good players that would hve helped us out, but wenger has opted for buying shit that he delludes himself into thinking doesnt stink.

Im sure our own billionaire owner wouldve put his hand in his pockets if wenger threatened to walk if he didnt get money for signings, etc, but he believes his kids/projects/experiments will be enough.

[Letters]

Billionaire owners dont organise the team, drill them at defense, choose the tactics on the pitch and make the substitutions.

No, but they can assemble a squad so good and distort the transfer and wage market to a point that it's hard for anyone else to compete.
God alone knows how Fergie got Utd so close to the title last year, they were nowhere near as good as City on paper.

But yes, there's no excuse or reason why we're battling to stay in touch with the top 4.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Mancs got close last season because they didn't throw away lots of cheap points. They did a good job of dispatching teams of 'lesser resources' - something which we've been failing miserably at.

Imagine where we could have been if we had a manager who applied tactics to see off the Norwichs, Swanseas, etc, thereby picking up some vital 3 points needed to keep us competitive.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Mancs got close last season because they didn't throw away lots of cheap points. They did a good job of dispatching teams of 'lesser resources' - something which we've been failing miserably at.

True, they kicked the shit out of us.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

True, they kicked the shit out of us.

You mods do set a high bar.... GoonersWum indeed

[Xhaka Can’t]

You mods do set a high bar.... GoonersWum indeed

I'm not disagreeing with you. Try not to overuse the wum tag. You've done it twice today in this thread alone.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Modding at its best

[Xhaka Can’t]

Incidentally, of everyone last season beat the teams with less resources than them, we would have finished 4th. You could depending on how you rate Liverpool's resources argue, 5th.

But yeah, we lost and increasingly lose some shockers, to the point that they are no longer shocking.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Modding at its best

It ain't modding when we post.