For everyone wanting Wenger out remember that two of the 'up and coming bright young managers' AVB and Brenton Rodgers crashed out in the FA and Cap1 cup before old man Wenger did.
Not an excuse but just thought I'd mention it.
No point changing the manager unless you change the board as well.
Whatever Terry!Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
But you said it yourself, the Board are able to get away with this because fans continue to go. If you're willing to keep going to games but still complain about the way we're going, that's your choice. But it's part of the problem because the Board only see money and don't care about the results if that's the general conclusion. So what else is left?
This may not apply to you, but it would be interesting to see how many regulars are considering giving next season a miss. We don't exactly need an empty stadium and I doubt Pompey are packed to full capacity every game as well.
Bah. There was no real effort till we went 1-0 down. If we'd played like we did in the last 10 minutes for the first 80 we'd have won at a canter.
Not good enough.
I genuinely believe that to many of our players, the result of a game is immaterial to them. They are paid wages as if they have arrived without the need to have actually achieve anything.
I actively hate more players than I love in this team by a considerable margin.
This result will be seen as an upset. But for it to be a genuine upset, it would need to be a big surprise. But really who here is either genuinely surprised by either the result or the performance?
Nail on head mate (though I wouldn't use precisely those words about Wenger himself - maybe because of my feelings below). The main point that I want to make about today's new low is that not only is it predictable, but that over the past 3 seasons my care factor is at an all time low. By showing that his ego is more important than us winning, and frankly taking the piss with most of his decisions, Wenger has actually undermined my enthusiasm not just for AFC but for the game itself!
I am not joking when I say that I would prefer to be a Liverpool fan right now, even though Brendan Rogers will IMO not turn out to be a masively successful manager. At last the Scousers have some reason still to hope it will work out. Its as though Wenger has sucked out all hope and promise out of the fans as well as his players.
My question is whether I will get back to caring at all even when he goes.
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter
Point taken, but both managers you mention can point to the fact that they are newly appointed and clearly in the throes of building their own projects. Its less exusable that a manager of Wenger's experience and reputation - not to mention salary - can have his pants pulled down by frankly inferior teams.
Spurs and Liverpool fans will feel that they are part of a project with forward momentum, and can hope for better things. We are a sinking ship and an increasing object of fun.
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter
Disappointing.
The care factor is gone because there is no hope of change. We are in the longest rut I've ever seen a team endure. Nothing ever changes, we can pretty much state at the start of the season where this club will be at any given point of almost every competition we are involved in.
And after it all, Gazidis will remark that we have had another fantastic year when commenting on the financial results. Meanwhile the fans feel like Phil Connor at his most desolate moment in Grounding Day.
RVC woz rite.
I agree but Wenger has been forced to sell his best players and replace them with inferior players. Unless you're one of these people who believes he does it on purpose.
It's impossible to improve if you let your best players leave every season.
I think every team in the Prem bar Manure could have slipped up to Blackburn because the quality of Prem teams is piss poor other than Manure and possibly City.
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