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    We as Arsenal fans display the most resentment for modern day football, I'm interested as to how (or if) our support would change if we were to become something we've been so vocally against.

    Football is heading in a direction where soon enough most of the top clubs will be backed this way, would that not in a sense make it a level playing field again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    And you don't think we're already in the shit with Stan at the helm if he's juicing up the club to make a tidy profit? We've crossed the bridge already. Selling the club to Stan and Usamov has already set things up.

    Unless Stan and co are serious about this self sustaining model and are willing to see things through despite it's unpopularity amongst fans, this was the only other option. There aren't many billionaires out there and most have no real connection to football. If you believe he's here to get his money's worth and then run, then this was always on the cards.
    Stan is a ****. Usmanov is a ****. They're all ****s. At least we are presently beholden to nobody but the bank. I'd prefer it that way, tbh.

    Still matters to me who owns the club next though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    You do like to overplay the race card don't you?

    If you can't see from what is being written about 'billionaire' playthings and not wanting to be part of that under any circumstances and not take that at face value without playing the card, that is a problem that rests solely with you.
    Like I said, opposition to billionaire playthings is understandable and is a fair opinion. It's the need to prefix any discussion involving Middle Eastern owners with pejoratives relating to their Arab ancestry that's discriminatory IMO. I mean, why mention sand dunes and why immediately assume they're crooks or thieves? Not everyone obviously does this, but there's an undercurrent of suspicion whenever Arab businessmen are mentioned as if they're all evil Saddam Hussein style figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Then a change of ownership isn't the answer and just need a better skilled manager that can maybe inspire the current owners to adopt a more risky approach.


    I reckon so.

    Though I do think the current owners are tooling up to leave, and have been since the arrived.

    Link I first said. It truly is a sad state of afffairs.
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    I don't really care who owns the club as long as they're interests are football, at the end of the day we're owned some people whose only interest is money whatever they say, there's nothing noble or moral about it, the fans are just getting conned whilst they get rich.

    If a group came in and invested the fans would be getting their money's worth at least and might see the money spent go elsewhere but some rich man's pockets, for years the club has had a holier than thou attitude, it's total cr*p but credit to them they've managed to con everyone and make a lot of people believe it's for the good of the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    We as Arsenal fans display the most resentment for modern day football, I'm interested as to how (or if) our support would change if we were to become something we've been so vocally against.

    Football is heading in a direction where soon enough most of the top clubs will be backed this way, would that not in a sense make it a level playing field again?
    Most people would jump on board as fans are fickle whatever they say...sure they might jump up and down now (it's easy to when it's not reality) but when the club is doing well on the pitch all will be forgotten just like at every other club.

    Football has changed that's the reality and you have to move with the times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    I would. It would stink of shit.
    Yeah. I think if we came back to it in ten years time having been pumped with cash (i.e. the Chelsea parallel), many people would say the same, in spite of their indifference/welcoming of it now. Not caring about who the club gets passed along to is very lax. What do Blackburn fans think of Venky's? On a more related level, what do Chelsea fans make of their club being subject to the whims of Abramovich?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    I just care for the long term future of the club. Not the short term league position.

    They are all ****s. Pure and simple.
    If they are all ****s and by no means am I disagreeing with you, what does it matter what **** is the owner? We have in one corner, a **** that is in it just for the money, who currently owns the club but doesn't give a fuck about it and in the other we have ****s saying they are willing to spend to improve us, reduce ticket prices etc etc. Might be all bullshit. Probably is but we'll never know for certain unless it happens. It's a risk and we have come to a time where a risk has to be taken or we will be left behind. Right now all hope is not lost. We are still hanging on to the coat tails of bigger clubs by competing for a CL place. If we go on as we are, we won't be in the future. Look whats happened to Liverpool. We face mid table mediocrity

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    Would people withdraw their support altogether? If you can't enjoy the success then I wouldn't see much point in continuing to follow the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Would people withdraw their support altogether? If you can't enjoy the success then I wouldn't see much point in continuing to follow the club.
    I think I'd still want the club to do well, and look for the results, but I don't think I'd be able to really celebrate and 'success'

    As a great man once said, it would be like buying a degree off the internet.

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