Next Arsenal manager?

[Kano]

that's why i said OR someone who has a good record of overachieving on small resources.

that is one of the biggest criteria they will be looking at.

[Marc Overmars]

Not fussed about Moyes although I would like to see how he'd fare with money to spend. A glittering CV is not the be all and end all for me, it's just about the right person. I haven't given it huge thought who I'd like to replace Wenget, but one things for sure is that we currently aren't getting anywhere with him in charge. I'm optimistic enough to believe that with the resources we have and the fact Arsenal is still a big draw, we have a good chance of improving under a lot of potentially suitable managers.

[Power n Glory]

that's why i said OR someone who has a good record of overachieving on small resources.

that is one of the biggest criteria they will be looking at.

That could be Tony Pulis of all people.

[Cripps_orig]

Not a Moyes fan. He's done a decent job at Everton but he's been there 11 years and they much like us under Wenger have stagnated. He should have taken them to the next level which he hasn't. Everton are a massive club so he has no excuse. It's not like he's managing a Wigan or a WBA where staying up every season is regarded a success. He should have pushed on with Everton and didn't.

[Kano]

That could be Tony Pulis of all people.

for the amount that ****s spent over the past few years, he should be doing a lot better.

[Özim]

Not a Moyes fan. He's done a decent job at Everton but he's been there 11 years and they much like us under Wenger have stagnated. He should have taken them to the next level which he hasn't. Everton are a massive club so he has no excuse. It's not like he's managing a Wigan or a WBA where staying up every season is regarded a success. He should have pushed on with Everton and didn't.

Yeah not a big fan either, he's done OK with what he's got and does have an eye for talent, but he does remind me of Wenger a lot although better tactically.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Isn’t Moyes one the longest serving Prem bosses behind Wenger and Fergie? When you have that sort of job stability when clubs like Villa, Newcastle, West Ham, Fulham keep chopping and changing managers it works in your favour. Tony Pulis will be able to maintain a good league position record if the Stoke Board and fans don’t rock the boat.

He’s qualified for the Europa League on a number of occasions and he’s never done well in the competition. He’s also never won any of the domestic cups. Those aren’t good signs to me. There are other candidates out there that are doing similar things in other leagues on small budgets but beating some of Europe’s finest and winning cups. I wouldn’t be able to name them all because I don’t watch enough of the other leagues but I’m sure a few people on here could probably help out. Either way, Wenger wouldn't have been on the fans radar when we first signed him but he at least won the French League before he arrived here. Moyes hasn't won anything or done well in Europe to be such a dead cert here.

so you cant name any. in other words, you lambast moyes for his achievements but you cannot even name other notable replacements.

thats what i call a weak argument.

our discussion is done.

[Power n Glory]

for the amount that ****s spent over the past few years, he should be doing a lot better.

What's Stoke's spending like compared to other clubs like Everton, Fulham, Sunderland....etc?

[Kano]

What's Stoke's spending like compared to other clubs like Everton, Fulham, Sunderland....etc?

more than all of those. 7th highest in the prem between 03-11. it's part of the reason stoke fans are getting fed up of pulis, because the football is shit, the bedding in period is over now and it's time to start improving. the sell on value of their players is diabolical.

http://transferleague.co.uk/

plus i read a stat somewhere a month or so ago that their net spend over the past few years is higher than ours

[Özim]

Stoke wouldn't even be in the PL without Pulis, they're a small club which he's turned into a mainstay in the PL, they're never going to be competing for trophies as they're just never going to have the resources (well with the exception of the CC, but that takes a bit of luck with the draw etc) and will never be a big club, they're punching above their weight in many ways.

I reckon if he ever leaves they'll get relegated as often happens with these small teams when the manager who's put them on the map moves on. Maybe they'll enjoy prettier football in the Championship more, I doubt it somehow.

We had Graham for years and the football wasn't pretty (a lot of the time), but I loved the club in those years, we had a resilience and never say die attitude that which made you believe and kept you on the edge of your seat in games we had no right to win, now sure we have prettier football (not by much I might add) but there's no soul to the team and it's predictable and if I'm honest boring, football isn't just about weaving pretty patterns on the pitch.