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    Quote Originally Posted by Suarez Is Boss View Post
    Suarez has accepted the charge, but doesn't accept the FA's view that 3 matches is insufficient.

    I think it's an agenda against Liverpool FC. I know every fan of every club will say it, but in this instance, I think Suarez and Liverpool have a case to feel aggrieved.

    Why?

    There was a precedent set by Jermaine Defoe biting Javier Mascherano in 2006. Martin Jol laughed it off as "comical" at the time. Pardew, the West Ham manager at the time, probably couldn't be bothered to comment.

    Why is it that such an incident 7 years later (and let's face it, biting is biting. There isn't really much difference between the scenarios) is played out over and over again on a 24 hour sports TV channel? Is it just because of his reputation? In which case, it's still wrong to continue this 'trial by television' based on the aforementioned precedent.
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    They make it sound like he mauled him to death. It was just a nibble, didn't even draw blood.

    Give him a fine and a slap and move on. There are far more important issues for the FA to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    I think it's an agenda against Liverpool FC. I know every fan of every club will say it, but in this instance, I think Suarez and Liverpool have a case to feel aggrieved.

    Why?

    There was a precedent set by Jermaine Defoe biting Javier Mascherano in 2006. Martin Jol laughed it off as "comical" at the time. Pardew, the West Ham manager at the time, probably couldn't be bothered to comment.

    Why is it that such an incident 7 years later (and let's face it, biting is biting. There isn't really much difference between the scenarios) is played out over and over again on a 24 hour sports TV channel? Is it just because of his reputation? In which case, it's still wrong to continue this 'trial by television' based on the aforementioned precedent.
    i think more so because it wasn't deal with by the match official after it happened, so sky and co have the green light to make an absolute mountain of bollocks from it all.

    speaking of which http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...iting-ivanovic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    i think more so because it wasn't deal with by the match official after it happened, so sky and co have the green light to make an absolute mountain of bollocks from it all.

    speaking of which http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...iting-ivanovic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    i think more so because it wasn't deal with by the match official after it happened, so sky and co have the green light to make an absolute mountain of bollocks from it all.

    speaking of which http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...iting-ivanovic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    I think it's an agenda against Liverpool FC. I know every fan of every club will say it, but in this instance, I think Suarez and Liverpool have a case to feel aggrieved.

    Why?

    There was a precedent set by Jermaine Defoe biting Javier Mascherano in 2006. Martin Jol laughed it off as "comical" at the time. Pardew, the West Ham manager at the time, probably couldn't be bothered to comment.

    Why is it that such an incident 7 years later (and let's face it, biting is biting. There isn't really much difference between the scenarios) is played out over and over again on a 24 hour sports TV channel? Is it just because of his reputation? In which case, it's still wrong to continue this 'trial by television' based on the aforementioned precedent.
    Defoe had been booked. Suarez has this on top of a million other incidents in his career including a biting offence which he received a seven game ban for in the Netherlands. Nothing to do with it being Liverpool, at all. It might have everything to do with him not being English but we know all that anyway.

    He could always just not do stupid things, then there wouldn't be any coverage needed.

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    As much as the media reaction is a bit 'moral highground', shockingly the Daily Mail leading the charge and as much as I do think there is something of a crusade against Suarez dating back to the Ghana handball, as with any incident like this he's brought in on himself. And not for the first time. Downing Street wading in and feral children blaming him for being thuggish is ridiculous, that is definitely true.

    He was doing quite well staying relatively out of the lime light, letting his football tell the story and there were signs at least some of the press was starting to turn. Not totally, but there were signs of praise and a desire to move on. Now with one stupid, ridiculous act he's undone all of that and it's going to be even harder, nay impossible, for him to recover any sort of reputation here. Even RAWKites are annoyed with him this time, which says a lot.

    As far as I'm concerned he'll serve his punishment and that'll be that. But once again he owes the club and his teammates as once again he is going to be banned for a significant period of time and he can't keep on doing that because at some point our patience will run out. As for "oh well he's trying to force a move", it's a stupid way of doing it, and if it's a pre-planned attempt to leave then he obviously isn't. On the plus side, a break could do him good since he will most likely be playing yet another summer in the Confed Cup, and it will force us to try out some other options which may help us in the long run.

    The rules with regards to retrospective action do need changing, but it's not the first time that's been said. And it won't be the last. Suarez' defence that Defoe got off with it won't stand up and he'll get a hefty ban.

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    Just ban him until end of season and be done with it. Bored of this already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    If you think a career with The Arsenal is a career wasted why bother supporting?
    I support Arsenal, and despise Van Persie for the way he left; his weasel words and the way he has helped Manure win the title. But if you equate a wasted career for a world class player with not winning stuff, then its pretty obvious that he'd have wasted his career by staying with us. He had a better season with us last season than he has had this season - and look where we finished in all comps. Comparing 2013 Arsenal with Manure in terms of sheer desire and ability to win things is like comparing a Citroen with a Ferrari.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suarez Is Boss View Post
    As much as the media reaction is a bit 'moral highground', shockingly the Daily Mail leading the charge and as much as I do think there is something of a crusade against Suarez dating back to the Ghana handball, as with any incident like this he's brought in on himself. And not for the first time. Downing Street wading in and feral children blaming him for being thuggish is ridiculous, that is definitely true.

    He was doing quite well staying relatively out of the lime light, letting his football tell the story and there were signs at least some of the press was starting to turn. Not totally, but there were signs of praise and a desire to move on. Now with one stupid, ridiculous act he's undone all of that and it's going to be even harder, nay impossible, for him to recover any sort of reputation here. Even RAWKites are annoyed with him this time, which says a lot.

    As far as I'm concerned he'll serve his punishment and that'll be that. But once again he owes the club and his teammates as once again he is going to be banned for a significant period of time and he can't keep on doing that because at some point our patience will run out. As for "oh well he's trying to force a move", it's a stupid way of doing it, and if it's a pre-planned attempt to leave then he obviously isn't. On the plus side, a break could do him good since he will most likely be playing yet another summer in the Confed Cup, and it will force us to try out some other options which may help us in the long run.

    The rules with regards to retrospective action do need changing, but it's not the first time that's been said. And it won't be the last. Suarez' defence that Defoe got off with it won't stand up and he'll get a hefty ban.
    I think its Carragher who has introduced some sanity to this debate by listing some of the unsavoury incidents committed by previous Liverpool players - his own coin throwing; Jan Molby's jail term; Souness breaking that Dinamo Bucharest player's jaw on the pitch; Robbie Fowler's coke sniffing celebration...

    The guy is a prick, but the hysteria in the press about this incident is IMO unbelievable...and as for the Prime Minister getting involved - well words fail me!
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