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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Maybe he should have kept his mouth shut but it wouldn’t have changed the outcome of the fans reactions. Cesc kept quiet and let other people talk for him and there was a huge backlash. It would have made no difference.
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    Of course it would've changed the reactions - not just of our fans but everyone in football. Reading on Rawk and elsewhere, everyone thinks he's a bit of a **** for doing what he did. He didn't need to do it and if he was pissed off at PHW, as I said, his statement shouldve been "I want to stay but Arsenal want the money and want to sell", knowing full well that Arsenal had got the replacements in and wanted to cash in.

    The bottom line is -Cesc would not be booed. He never made a secret about wanting to go back to Barcelona (as stupid a decision as that was) and kept his mouth shut and didn't slag off the club. Even though he had 3 years on his contract, he knew the club would sell, and we did.

    Its illogical behaviour and I think Van Persie is more switched on than that. As thick skinned as he might be, and as happy as he might be at winning the title, everyone also likes to be loved and I'm sure he's regretting releasing that statement, knowing full well the move to man Utd would've happened anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Maybe he calculated there was enough bad feeling towards the club's policies he'd get support from the fans. That way he could leave and have the fans nodding in understanding rather than calling him a traitorous ****. He calculated correctly in many cases.
    Not really. GW is more anti-club than Arsenal fans in general. The Letters' of this world who bother to go to matches these days think he's a **** and he there's a lot of ill feeling. I would say he calculated wrongly. Should've done a Cesc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    Not really. GW is more anti-club than Arsenal fans in general. The Letters' of this world who bother to go to matches these days think he's a **** and he there's a lot of ill feeling. I would say he calculated wrongly. Should've done a Cesc.
    Are you implying he's a ****?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    Of course it would've changed the reactions - not just of our fans but everyone in football. Reading on Rawk and elsewhere, everyone thinks he's a bit of a **** for doing what he did. He didn't need to do it and if he was pissed off at PHW, as I said, his statement shouldve been "I want to stay but Arsenal want the money and want to sell", knowing full well that Arsenal had got the replacements in and wanted to cash in.

    The bottom line is -Cesc would not be booed. He never made a secret about wanting to go back to Barcelona (as stupid a decision as that was) and kept his mouth shut and didn't slag off the club. Even though he had 3 years on his contract, he knew the club would sell, and we did.

    Its illogical behaviour and I think Van Persie is more switched on than that. As thick skinned as he might be, and as happy as he might be at winning the title, everyone also likes to be loved and I'm sure he's regretting releasing that statement, knowing full well the move to man Utd would've happened anyway.
    Why would a statement of ‘Arsenal want to cash’ be any better than what he did? Wouldn’t that be worse and a serious disrespect to the club? I think he may have misjudged the fans and shouldn’t have said anything. It was handled badly and the club knew what they were doing when they stopped him from talking to the press and then PHW makes that silly statement. Each of them were trying to play the blame game. PHW was trying to blame to spin the ‘modern day player’ story. Didn’t he talk about Man Utd and Scholes or was that when he was talking about Theo? RVP was blaming the club and putting the spin on the clubs ‘sporting ambition’.

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    We may all never agree on the circumstances surrounding his departure, but I think we can all agree he's a Judas ****.

    Absolutely disgusting, cringeworthy and heartwrenching seeing him hugging and celebrating with that odious whiskey nose bastard. He can play it down all he wants, but I'm sure he can never be impervious to what Gooners who stuck by him, sung his name and blindly adored him, think of him today. He wasn't just here for a season or two, so he's bloody hell fully cognizant of the fact that the mancs are a filthy set of sub human, oxygen thieving scums and that we share mutual resentment and loathing for each other.

    That's who he chose to abandon us for, so yes, FUCK HIM! I hope the fans boo him to high heaven come Sunday.

    **** bastard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Are you implying he's a ****?
    I can't relate to a millionnaire footballer. If I was him I would've stayed at arsenal knowing full well I was going to be filthy rich no matter what, I would be loved by millions of Arsenal fans - become a club legend on the level of bergkamp, and knowing that I'm so fucking great that I'm the best player in the league by a massive margin and I could make up about 25 points on my own and hence give Arsenal a chance of winning the title anyway.

    If I think he's a ****, I think the club are bigger ****s for selling out and giving a massive fuck you to the fans. Fair enough they finally managed to keep a promising Walcott. But the time to take a stand was at Van Persie. We were paid to get bullied and the club has lost its dignity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Maybe he calculated there was enough bad feeling towards the club's policies he'd get support from the fans. That way he could leave and have the fans nodding in understanding rather than calling him a traitorous ****. He calculated correctly in many cases.


    I agree with that but didn't expect the backlash. The club have admitted they were trying to attract PSG with a bid. If we had sold him to PSG, wouldn’t that have just reinforced the clubs spin about him wanting more money and really damage his reputation? They were spinning it so it looked like the main sticking point was money from very early on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Why would a statement of ‘Arsenal want to cash’ be any better than what he did? Wouldn’t that be worse and a serious disrespect to the club? I think he may have misjudged the fans and shouldn’t have said anything. It was handled badly and the club knew what they were doing when they stopped him from talking to the press and then PHW makes that silly statement. Each of them were trying to play the blame game. PHW was trying to blame to spin the ‘modern day player’ story. Didn’t he talk about Man Utd and Scholes or was that when he was talking about Theo? RVP was blaming the club and putting the spin on the clubs ‘sporting ambition’.
    It would've been much better because Van Persie would be indicating the club want to sell him more than he wants to leave. Right now, we're not so sure. If you've said you want to stay, then it's automatically the clubs fault (who have final say) for selling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    It would've been much better because Van Persie would be indicating the club want to sell him more than he wants to leave. Right now, we're not so sure. If you've said you want to stay, then it's automatically the clubs fault (who have final say) for selling.
    I highly doubt people would have bought that story. All he had to do was sign a contract if he wanted to stay. Nasri and Adebayor tried to pull that nosense and it didn't wash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I highly doubt people would have bought that story. All he had to do was sign a contract if he wanted to stay. Nasri and Adebayor tried to pull that nosense and it didn't wash.
    You're missing the point - of course most would be suspicious until he signed a new contact. But the point is - in public - he wasn't the one forcing the move, and so it's more transparently the club's decision. I, and many others I guess, weren't angry that he didn't sign a new contract. If we can't afford him, that's that - what can a club do. I was very annoyed that we didn't hold him to his last year of his contract, took the hit of £12m (taking away Giroud's fee) and gave ourselves the best chance of doing well on the pitch. This showed where the club's priorities are.

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