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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    We can go back and fourth on that one. Jack was playing when we couldn't buy a win last season, has played in the pre seasons....I'm not sure we would have won with him on the pitch and think it's wrong for the fans to put that sort of pressure on his young shoulders. I hope he becomes that player but it shouldn't be attributed to him when he hasn't proven it.
    I couldnt help feeling like I was watching a game played at slow motion, I think Jack would have added a more direct edge but I could see us scoring for love nor for money, even if Gerbil had stayed on.

    to be honest Newcastle were crap and I cant imagine Liverpool being as bad so we will need to step it up a tadge overwise the best we can hope for is a draw.

    The defence looked soldish and we didnt have our usual bout of scares, next Saturday might be different, Liverpool have pace and directness

    but I think some of the guys will be better with a run of games, Ramsey is one name that comes to newcastle nd however some need to pay more attention, Arshavin and Song who as a senior member of the team neefs to cut out the things that are going to get him into trouble, at the moment we need all hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    we beat man utd last season when jack was the focal point without cesc. and in preseason hes looked good. i think jacks the type of player that will relish the responsibility of being an important player and he'll play with more freedom now cescs gone. needs to add goals to his game but that'll come with age. he maturing at a fast pace and i can see him taking the role brilliantly.
    Yes, but we lost to Stoke, Villa and then drew against Fulham, a game we almost lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Yes, but we lost to Stoke, Villa and then drew against Fulham, a game we almost lost.
    that had little to do with jack but more to do with our confidence and the way we imploded after losing the carling cup final. our season ended then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    It's not nonsense, he can't think on his feet and his use of the ball/space isn't very good.

    It's not really to do with positional play, more to do with awareness of what's around you and how you can use the ball and make the most of space.

    Arshavin on the whole is clever on the ball, sure he has bad matches but you can see he thinks on the ball.

    Some teams can't cope with pace, that is why Theo has so much success at the end of matches, when players are tired pace is even more frightening and he has an abundance of it.
    If you can see when a man is thinking, I can't win this argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    that had little to do with jack but more to do with our confidence and the state of our club after losing the carling cup final. our season ended then.
    We beat Manure after we lost the Carling Cup final. After we beat Man U 1 nil, we lost to Stoke and Villa, straight after the Manure win.

    Did we beat Man U twice last season?

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    Most of Theos goals came in the first half... But lets not have that ruin a good out of date, chris waddle style stereotype.

    Don't get me wrong, I accept his weaknesses, it's just others can't/won't see his strengths.

    Edit: RVP had the most shots outside the box (2)
    Last edited by AKBapologist; 14-08-2011 at 12:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Most of Theos goals came in the first half, scored more from out of the box than any other player last season too... But lets not have that ruin a good stereotype.
    The last thing people want on GW is people providing facts, evidence and rational argument. Are you new here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Most of Theos goals came in the first half, scored more from out of the box than any other arsenal player last season too... But lets not have that ruin a good out of date, chris waddle style stereotype.

    Don't get me wrong, I accept his weaknesses, it's just others can't/won't see his strengths.
    Then you have the assists to RVP.

    Arshavin had a clear chance to thread Gervinho through on goal but made the wrong pass and took too long to make his decision. Some would excuse it as sloppy play.

    If Theo did the same thing, they'd say he lacks intelligence and had too much time to think. It's a double standard.

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    We don't play 4-3-3, we play 4-tipyytappy-1 most of the time and 4-tippytappy-0 when we get in dangerous positions. None of our players can cross a ball anyway so 4-4-2 wouldn't make any difference. Sagna is a shockingly bad player once he gets over the halfway line. Gibbs looks no better. Gervino is only settling in (something we couldn't afford btw) but he has all the hallmarks of another Wenger classic, a player who has pace, trickery but no end product. RvP was thoroughly isolated yesterday. As usual when we did manage to bundle the ball through on the flanks nobody was in the box. We are getting further and further away from being an effective PL team. I have no clue what Wenger is trying to achieve. We play like a science experiment rather than a competitive team. He must literally forbid the players from shooting. We lose everything in the air. We can't change the tempo of a game, we are one-paced. It has become far too easy to figure out our one-dimensional play and teams are finding it less of a challenge to shut us out. Fabregas and Nasri were two players who could occasionally inject something a little different, now they are gone. We are the most un-English team to ever play in the English league and the results speak for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Vela View Post
    In a normal match, sure. In our matches, it's a viable option, teams attack us less and with our more fluid attack we have the bodies in the right areas, it just means we have another guy making runs in the middle instead of milling around in midfield, that's a benefit in some games.
    4-3-3 doesn't mean that the wing forwards have to stay out deep, they can move inwards if instructed to. Wenger obviously hasn't.

    It's the best formation in the modern game as it has a little of everything, 3 players up front instead of two (when attacking) and 5 players in midfield instead of 4 (when defending, as the wing forwards should cut back).

    The formation is fine, the quality of players playing in it isn't. We want our players to be 'congested' away from the penalty box as against us teams pack it, there's more space for our attackers to move in outside it.

    Also at the people asking for Walcott to move up front, he still isn't good enough for that. Don't care about his footballing brain etc etc, his close control simply is too poor for him to be playing in the middle of four defenders. The position he has now is best for him (wing forward) as he starts outside where there's space and cuts in, he can make diagonal runs when Wilshere/whoever play balls for him to run onto.

    We need to start playing him like Ljungberg, he should be more akin to that than someone like Owen/Defoe.

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