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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Nasri will go on deadline day.
    Pretty much, seems he's a dead cert to go too, losing Cesc is hardly going to convince him to stay either....I think in his eyes it'll be like leaving a sinking ship.

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    A lot of this media bullshit about the amazing football we play doesn't help. Especially as we don't play amazing football, we play boring, tippy-tap shite for 90% of the match and then once every 2-3 games one of our staggeringly over-intricate routines comes off and everyone is drooling again. Even this is happening less. This means a lot of our players (especially the youngsters) are very over-rated. When you take quality like Fabregas out then what do you have left in terms of genuine quality, I mean the sort of quality a Madrid or Barcelona or Man Utd would pay for? You have RvP, Wilshere and Nasri. The rest of them? Unremarkable.

    If Nasri goes we are two injuries away from being a less entertaining Stoke City but without the bollocks. I know people will say, but look we're 4th, we're in the CL, we're still a good side, but you watch us play these days and if you discount the utterly pointless ball retention routine in the middle that always breaks down when we get in the final third, we're not a good team are we? And we don't have good players. Look at us scratching around for any positives, the defence played well (translation, they didn't serve up another calamitous self-destruction), we have more pace (translation, finally somebody is fucking running forwards), Ramsey played well (just a lie really, isn't it?). And we're aiming for 4th, same as Villa, Everton, Poll, the Spuds. That will be our trophy. Why? Because we might win the CL? Not a chance, it's so we can get the money. But to do what with it? Buy players? Improve? Progress? Well no, not that either, it's so we can pay back Stan's real estate debt ASAP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    I did that's why I said great in some cases, my point is that everyone seems to want to leave...despite Wenger preaching about team spirit.

    The guy is absolutely clueless, he can't see what's going on under his nose which is very unfortunate for us. Noone believes in his policy and yet he won't change...it's mystifying.

    Like I said we can't expect the better players to stick around to settle for 4th place every season, I mean what does that actually mean at the end of your career.....8 4th places in the league.....great thing to tell your kids and grand kids!
    Depends, do you think the players and at stoke, fulham, villa etc and in lower divisions will ever show their grandkids EPL medals? I agree that quality players will leave but how many do we have around the sqaud now so it won't be a problem.

    You can't let Aw just take all the flack blame PHW 2 he is as much to blame. What is Stan doing to turn the club into winners.

    do we think if we keep saying AW should go and the board they will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Nasri will go on deadline day.
    Why do you say that, i think he'd go this week if he were to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Depends, do you think the players and at stoke, fulham, villa etc and in lower divisions will ever show their grandkids EPL medals? I agree that quality players will leave but how many do we have around the sqaud now so it won't be a problem.

    You can't let Aw just take all the flack blame PHW 2 he is as much to blame. What is Stan doing to turn the club into winners.

    do we think if we keep saying AW should go and the board they will.
    Those clubs don't keep top players if they get them, they inevitably move on which is what we want to avoid. You're right though there's not many left, that's a problem in itself though as we're only going to get worse not better if we have no top players.

    It's not all AW's fault, PHW is a class 1 pr*ck I wish the guy would f*ck off...and really hope he gets what's coming to him...smug idiot.

    Kroenke got PHW's blessing so is it any surprise he's interested in hard cash, he's a businessman and if PHW likes him there must be money in it.

    Having said that as a manager AW should be aiming for success, he seems to take pride from the fact we end up 4th....just shows how low his ambitions are and how much of a loser he has become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Why do you say that, i think he'd go this week if he were to go.
    I think we are prepared to keep him if City don't play ball with the fee, so I'm thinking this one could run for a bit longer yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    If people were silly to believe no one was leaving, then more fool them. The only person AW lied to was himself tbh. Did you really believe cesc was not match fit, come on fella i had you down as much smarter then that. I agree Wenger needs to be honest from now all his credibilty is going fast if not gone.

    I thought you hated Denilson and Bendter both are not really loses but the fact they wanted to leave showed us something at the club is not right. End of the day if those players were silly enough to think they'd come to Arsenal and win trophies more fool them.
    Please don't defend Wenger for such nonsense or try to flip it on the fans for trusting the manager of Arsenal. It's down right insulting. He should some integrity and fess up to the situation. I said last season Clichy, Nasri and Cesc were dropped that we'd sell them. Wenger being deceptive is no surprise, it just angers to see how low he'll stoop.

    And it also angers me to see fans stoop just as low with these sort of posts. Yeah, I get it, never trust a con artist. But how are you going chastise me before you chastise the manager of our club for putting us all through this shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Those clubs don't keep top players if they get them, they inevitably move on which is what we want to avoid. You're right though there's not many left, that's a problem in itself though as we're only going to get worse not better if we have no top players.

    It's not all AW's fault, PHW is a class 1 pr*ck I wish the guy would f*ck off...and really hope he gets what's coming to him...smug idiot.

    Kroenke got PHW's blessing so is it any surprise he's interested in hard cash, he's a businessman and if PHW likes him there must be money in it.

    Having said that as a manager AW should be aiming for success, he seems to take pride from the fact we end up 4th....just shows how low his ambitions are and how much of a loser he has become.
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    Agreed, I feel really angry how we have bent over for Barca and let the fuck us inthe Arse. I mean we let then train at our ground Insult us after insult and they still shown us how small we are.

    Eveything at arsenal is a shambles and needs sorting out quick. IMO i don't expect AW to be manger next season what ever happens, he may even go soon, you can see he looks fraile and ill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    If people were silly to believe no one was leaving, then more fool them. The only person AW lied to was himself tbh. Did you really believe cesc was not match fit, come on fella i had you down as much smarter then that. I agree Wenger needs to be honest from now all his credibilty is going fast if not gone.
    To be fair mate, you believed he was going to make big changes this summer and had finally see the light, so I don't understand how you can say that.

    The guy is a just a liar who makes bad situations worse, people want to believe things will change and I can understand that..but blatantly lying about a situation is taking the p*ss and makes him look like a d*ck to everyone.

    It's a sad state of affairs when pretty much almost everything your manager says is a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Please don't defend Wenger for such nonsense or try to flip it on the fans for trusting the manager of Arsenal. It's down right insulting. He should some integrity and fess up to the situation. I said last season Clichy, Nasri and Cesc were dropped that we'd sell them. Wenger being deceptive is no surprise, it just angers to see how low he'll stoop.

    And it also angers me to see fans stoop just as low with these sort of posts. Yeah, I get it, never trust a con artist. But how are you going chastise me before you chastise the manager of our club for putting us all through this shit?
    Not defending him and never said anything about you, i said if people belived cesc was injured them more fool them. Come on we know he's going whatever AW says, we know he's not injured.

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