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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    Thankful to who?
    Tottenham for cocking it up. Again.

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    Oh and my final answer in regards to will we finish in top 4 is NO. I don't think this team has it in them to pick up 6 points in the next 2 games, we will most definitely screw up one of these games IMHO. Sorry...just don't have any faith in the team or the manager when it comes to the crunch.

    This team has pretty much failed in every big game for the past few seasons.

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    I just can't see Wigan being flushed away so easily. We'll draw (allowing them to set up the miracle escape), everyone will shit themselves, including Tottenham who will draw against Hitler and we'll nick it by one point.

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    Have you ever considered that the reason we have sold off these players is that we cannot afford to compete with teams that can offer them two or three times the current salary they are on here, and that it's no longer worth paying out for players on a five year contract who we might not be able to get rid of if they don't prove their worth (i.e Arshavin)

    I don't suggest for a moment Wenger hasn't made us the fans victims of his intrasigence and failure to learn from his mistakes, but lets not kid ourselves that the two trophies worth winning are well out of reach for us financially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Have you ever considered that the reason we have sold off these players is that we cannot afford to compete with teams that can offer them two or three times the current salary they are on here, and that it's no longer worth paying out for players on a five year contract who we might not be able to get rid of if they don't prove their worth (i.e Arshavin)

    I don't suggest for a moment Wenger hasn't made us the fans victims of his intrasigence and failure to learn from his mistakes, but lets not kid ourselves that the two trophies worth winning are well out of reach for us financially.
    So we can't compete financially with the big boys blah blah. Yeah I accept that, but one thing I don't understand is why we are not making a concerted effort to replace some of these departing players with quality.

    I mean we didn't even replace Song at all, why?

    Our transfer policy is an absolute sham, it is without question worse than any of our rivals.

    Moreover, if we use for example Arshavin or Gervinho as examples of why we shouldn't be buying and tieing up players on long term deals then you have to question our flawed transfer policy in the first place. We might aswell give up.

    Yeah at the moment CL & PL are well out of our reach but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be doing everything in our power to compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    I'm guessing he expected Wenger not to strip the team of all the class it used to possess in order to leave us scrapping for 4th against a team we used to finish 15 to 30 points ahead of.
    Tbf most of that is them getting better rather than us getting worse. Even now we could get more points this year than last, trouble is so could Spurs. Even then it's still in our (slippery) hands. We've bobbed around at about this level for about 5 years now and in some ways it's remarkable that we've asset stripped and Wenger's kept us about the same level, certainly in terms of points. Wenger's has many faults but the bumbling idiot ™ some on here make him out to be couldn't have done that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    So we can't compete financially with the big boys blah blah. Yeah I accept that, but one thing I don't understand is why we are not making a concerted effort to replace some of these departing players with quality.

    I mean we didn't even replace Song at all, why?

    Our transfer policy is an absolute sham, it is without question worse than any of our rivals.

    Moreover, if we use for example Arshavin or Gervinho as examples of why we shouldn't be buying and tieing up players on long term deals then you have to question our flawed transfer policy in the first place. We might aswell give up.

    Yeah at the moment CL & PL are well out of our reach but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be doing everything in our power to compete.

    Because quality costs money forget transfer feees, transfer frees are nothing

    We signed Song when he was 18 so fair to say he would have been on no more than 60k a week when he left us, to sign someone of the same sort of quality we are having to pay 100k a week + in wages because where as Song came to us as a raw recruit we would need an already established player to replace him with complete with greedy agent.

    Arshavin was a good signing at the time, unfortunately he became a sloth


    Gervinho again endemic of the fact that to replace the quality we sold we would have to pay wages that we can't afford, especially when you look of the wages of some our bargain basement signings

    Denilson 40k a week, Squillaci 60k a week, Chamakh 70k a week (i doubt we wanted to pay them that much but the board and Wenger probably felt their cheap transfer fee negated the amount of money we would have to pay them).

    That's it because of the greediness of players and their agents it's impossible to get even average players unless they are kids without paying them 50k a week plus. The exception of course being Arteta who took a pay cut to join us, the reason we required him to take a pay cut is that even with the sale of Fabregas, Nasri we still had a significantly high wage bill.

    So as much as i think Wenger dithers at times in the transfer market, it is impossible to buy quality players....we can afford the transfer feees of one 25million pound player but they are likely to demand 150k a week.

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    Exactly. Which is why the signing of Rooney is absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Have you ever considered that the reason we have sold off these players is that we cannot afford to compete with teams that can offer them two or three times the current salary they are on here, and that it's no longer worth paying out for players on a five year contract who we might not be able to get rid of if they don't prove their worth (i.e Arshavin)

    I don't suggest for a moment Wenger hasn't made us the fans victims of his intrasigence and failure to learn from his mistakes, but lets not kid ourselves that the two trophies worth winning are well out of reach for us financially.
    We can afford to pay for star quality. With our bloated salary budget, we could have a spine of 3-4 world class players and a complement of good players around them instead of paying shite like Chamakh and Squillachi (remember him?) over 60k a week. Our ridiculous salary structure, championed by Wenger means we are paying well over the odds for mediocrity and in far too many cases, utter turds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Tbf most of that is them getting better rather than us getting worse. Even now we could get more points this year than last, trouble is so could Spurs. Even then it's still in our (slippery) hands. We've bobbed around at about this level for about 5 years now and in some ways it's remarkable that we've asset stripped and Wenger's kept us about the same level, certainly in terms of points. Wenger's has many faults but the bumbling idiot ™ some on here make him out to be couldn't have done that.
    I disagree with the part in bold - most of it over the past ten years has been us getting worse. Our football is damned near unwatchable (probably one of the top reasons for giving up your ST). Spurs have got a bit better while we have got far worse. Even this 10w 2d 1L run we've been on because 4th is in danger has largely been full of putrid dirge.

    We were a team full of world class players - now we have none. At best we have 1, matbe 2 world class players, but you can bet your ass, the minute they realise or even look like reakising their potential, they'll be sold.

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