Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[McNamara That Ghost...]

If he wants trophies, why leave Barcelona? It'd be something else he is after if he was to leave.

Doubt it'll happen anyway.

[Grebbo]

I don't think this transfer will go through but even if Fabregas respects Wenger a lot (which I don't doubt), at the moment Utd are a much bigger draw than Arsenal. Coming 4th and maintaining our self sustainable business model may be good enough for Wenger and the board, but I reckon Cesc wants something more especially now that he should be at the peak of his career.

You could look at it in another way in that Arsenal is actually quite attractive for Cesc. We've won fuck all since he left so if he came back he could become a legend. He'd also be our star man. Plus he's won everything so he could view Arsenal as a challenge.

Going to Manure will probably win him the league at least a couple of times during his contract but is that such a big deal for a guy that's won the lot already? Surely winning even an FA cup with Arse would be more satisfying?

Manure are a much bigger draw than us but Barca are much more attractive than Manure. So it would make sense for him to stay at Barca or join us for a challenge.

Wenger probably wont even try to sign him so it's a non-starter anyway.

[Ollie the Optimist]

he's done arsenal and he's never coming back.

he'll stay at barca but if he was told tomorrow to gtfo and it was between utd and arsenal he'd go to the former.

the manager isn't fergie by any stretch of the imagination but they are a club willing to spend, willing to build a team and try for titles whilst we are just meandering around mediocrity.

havnt seen much evidence of that this summer. only two realistic targets for them are cesc and thiago, ones already rejected them. i cant think who else they have been linked with, plus the only signings they have made are some unheard of squad players.

[Joker]

a one trick pony?? look at his acheviements for us, and you are calling him a one trick pony? jesus, you really fucking hate him dont you, so much that you refuse to achknowledge anything he has done for this club and just focus on him getting top four.


i can imagine you in 50 years time tallking to your grandchildren. "grandad, is it true arsenal won the league unbeaten under arsene wenger?" "yes, but we dont judge him on that, we judge him on him getting the top four for years after that, he forget all of his trophies and focus on the top four alone, what a **** that man was"

Yes he was great in the first half of his reign at Arsenal, but we can't turn a blind eye to the fact that we have won no trophies in the last 8 years. In fact, it's not the lack of trophies as such that the major issue, it's that we could easily have had a few trophies at least if Wenger had made better signings to supplement the squad rather than relying on poor quality bargain basement signings like Silvestre who could not be relied upon in the business end of the season. Moreover, his disregard for the domestic trophies were unforgivable, especially decisions like resting Arshavin in an FA Cup semi final, and playing a B team in the Carling Cup final against Chelsea.

When Wenger leaves he will be remembered equally for his fantastic achievements in the first half of his Arsenal career as for his role in the stagnation of our club from 2005 onwards.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

our first option to buy cesc is only if barca accept another bid from another club. they wont accept £25m and if they accept a higher bid, our £25m clause comes into effect

chill, we got this

[Ollie the Optimist]

Yes he was great in the first half of his reign at Arsenal, but we can't turn a blind eye to the fact that we have won no trophies in the last 8 years. In fact, it's not the lack of trophies as such that the major issue, it's that we could easily have had a few trophies at least if Wenger had made better signings to supplement the squad rather than relying on poor quality bargain basement signings like Silvestre who could not be relied upon in the business end of the season. Moreover, his disregard for the domestic trophies were unforgivable, especially decisions like resting Arshavin in an FA Cup semi final, and playing a B team in the Carling Cup final against Chelsea.

When Wenger leaves he will be remembered equally for his fantastic achievements in the first half of his Arsenal career as for his role in the stagnation of our club from 2005 onwards.

i cant argue with some of his decisions, resting arshavin etc, but hte bargin basements signings are surely because of no money? gazidas admitted this summer wenger never had any money so he had to do what he could and his gambles didnt pay off. i do feel we should have won some trophies in last few years namely birmingham in 11, and last season we should have done better, no excuses for it.

however, i dont think you can critisce wenger for playing a b team against chelsea. in hindsight it looks an awful decision, however, at the time, it had been 6 months since the champions league final and only 18 months since the fa cup in 05. hardly a drought, so at the time, it was fair enough, the b team got us to the final anyway, in hindsight it looks poor.

[Niall_Quinn]

LOL - we're probably trying to assist Utd. Serious? A choice between us spending £25mill or getting a cash windfall from Barca? Could there be any doubt whatsoever which option we'd go for? Strong chance of this deal coming off if Fabregas wants to go.

[Ollie the Optimist]

seeing a few reports saying this bid was made 8 weeks ago. begs the question, if this is true, why no follow up? and therefore might explain thiago interest. other factor could be, that maybe wenger had a deal with fergie, ill sell you judas, if next year you bid for cesc to activate my buy back clause

[selassie]

Could be profit, but regardless it activates our 25 million buy back clause. Wenger won't let him go to united

Hmmm..we all said that last summer before he got on the phone to Fergie and pushed through the deal to sell RVP.

Wenger has no control over the situation and is very unlikely to put in any kind of offer for Cesc IMHO.

If he goes there he goes there. Nothing we can do about it, and to be honest we need to get our house in order first, WTF have we been doing all summer regarding our targets?!!

[Ollie the Optimist]

Hmmm..we all said that last summer before he got on the phone to Fergie and pushed through the deal to sell RVP.

Wenger has no control over the situation and is very unlikely to put in any kind of offer for Cesc IMHO.

If he goes there he goes there. Nothing we can do about it, and to be honest we need to get our house in order first, WTF have we been doing all summer regarding our targets?!!

with buy back clauses and first refusal, he has complete control over the situation, if he wants cesc, he'll get him.