Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[Ollie the Optimist]

You're talking rubbish, Ollie. So last year you would have turned down an RVP replacement, star striker for two just above par players?

no not if i was looking at the short term picture. however, we know the club dont operate on the short term but the long term picture. this summer is the one everyone says we have money because of new deals etc, wenger would know this, and realise he needed a squad of good players to challenge not shit ones, then could sign teh world class player this year, and go for the title next season (2013/14). thats not an unreasonable suggestion.

plus even with van persie as a world class player, we still only competed for top four, replacing him with like for like, wouldnt change that. you need a couple of world class players and a good squad. even if we signed a van persie last season, we wouldnt have challenged for the league, it would have just been top four again. so add in three very good players imo, then the world class ones the next season, you have a much better chance.

a striker line up of world class striker, theo, chamkh and bentner

or a line up of world class striker, podolski, theo, giroud,

which one is more likely to compete and challenge and probably win you stuff over the season?

[Power n Glory]

Exactly right.

It's amazing how myopic some can be.

Bollocks. You telling me you wouldn't have taken a top top striker like Higuain to replace RVP last season?

[Ralpheroo72]

Chavs have bid for Rooney - another one we aren't buying incidently

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23342660

[Niall_Quinn]

So the argument is, if you have one prime steak and four vomited up rashers and you give the steak away you need to stick your finger down your throat to pad out the meal?

[Özim]

Considering Podolski was played on the wing most of the time and Giroud is average at best...I'd have taken the world class striker last summer personally (that was never going to happen of course, just like it won't this summer either).

[Ollie the Optimist]

Pretty much.

Believing Wenger will spend big is like believing in Santa Claus tbh.

Been there done that, heard the BS time and time and time again, this summer is no different to any other summer, spin about money, Wenger saying 1 or 2 quality players, linked to some pipedream signings which seem to drag on forever as they're never going to happen etc etc.

i think you need to get out of the mindset of its only a good signing if we spend 30 million on him. judge a player by what he is, not his price tag. cazorla was only 12 million yet he was one of the best players in hte league. so if wenger went out and signed another 3 cazorlas at 12 million each, id be delighted.

however the issue is not spending big, its the haggling over small amounts. dont look at the price tag, look at the player. price tags lie, ie torres

[Niall_Quinn]

Chavs have bid for Rooney - another one we aren't buying incidently

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23342660

I'm a little bit shocked we aren't buying Rooney.

[Power n Glory]

no not if i was looking at the short term picture. however, we know the club dont operate on the short term but the long term picture. this summer is the one everyone says we have money because of new deals etc, wenger would know this, and realise he needed a squad of good players to challenge not shit ones, then could sign teh world class player this year, and go for the title next season (2013/14). thats not an unreasonable suggestion.

plus even with van persie as a world class player, we still only competed for top four, replacing him with like for like, wouldnt change that. you need a couple of world class players and a good squad. even if we signed a van persie last season, we wouldnt have challenged for the league, it would have just been top four again. so add in three very good players imo, then the world class ones the next season, you have a much better chance.

a striker line up of world class striker, theo, chamkh and bentner

or a line up of world class striker, podolski, theo, giroud,

which one is more likely to compete and challenge and probably win you stuff over the season?

Stop with the rubbish. The tightening up of our defence was the main difference this season. For once, we were able to hold on to a 1 nil lead. Add RVP into the mix or a striker that could win us games and we'd have had a good shot at silverware.

[Niall_Quinn]

Considering Podolski was played on the wing most of the time and Giroud is average at best...I'd have taken the world class striker last summer personally (that was never going to happen of course, just like it won't this summer either).

Why did RvP leave? Because we signed players like Chamakh.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Stop with the rubbish. The tightening up of our defence was the main difference this season. For once, we were able to hold on to a 1 nil lead. Add RVP into the mix or a striker that could win us games and we'd have had a good shot at silverware.

with van persie, we competed for the top four, nothing else. so how is just replacing him with like for like going to make us win stuff with a squad that hasnt improved or competed past february before he left?