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    Quote Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga View Post
    Yes but 4th is hardly a great achievement
    I didn't say it was.
    Are the top 6 not all one of the best teams in the country as well?
    Yes.

    And it's not meaningless, it just means that we're not that bad a side. We're not that good either of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I disagree about him controlling the midfield. We've looked disjointed for the past two seasons and we're struggling to hold on to possession. It's not like before when we had long bouts of pointless possession, now it seems like we generally struggle to keep the ball moving.
    i never said he controlled the midfield, i said he was a controller. the focus is on him, not the whole midfield.

    and the struggling to hold onto possession comes from a myriad of problems; shape, lack of balance, tempo etc. cant expect one player to control a midfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    i never said he controlled the midfield, i said he was a controller. the focus is on him, not the whole midfield.

    and the struggling to hold onto possession comes from a myriad of problems; shape, lack of balance, tempo etc. cant expect one player to control a midfield.
    Well, he's part of the problem. It's not just him but if we're saying we're playing him out of position to have more possession but we sacrifice a combative midfield for him....I say it's not working out. None of the current starters are controlling the middle at all.

    As for one player controlling the tempo, I think Rosicky does a good job at being the glue when he plays and we look more fluid when he plays. Cesc is another obvious one and hope we make a move for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    While we're not that great we are still one of the best teams in the country, we're not that bad either.
    Overly negative opinions of first team regulars are just obviously WUMmish. I think we can all agree that Gerhinho shouldn't be paid to play football but clearly most of our first choice players are pretty decent or we wouldn't be finishing in the top 4. Overly positive opinions can be annoying when people rave about a player no matter how they play
    Gerhinho .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Well, he's part of the problem. It's not just him but if we're saying we're playing him out of position to have more possession but we sacrifice a combative midfield for him....I say it's not working out. None of the current starters are controlling the middle at all.

    As for one player controlling the tempo, I think Rosicky does a good job at being the glue when he plays and we look more fluid when he plays. Cesc is another obvious one and hope we make a move for him.
    i think you'll find i was the one who just said he was better next to a DM instead of as the DM. in other words, he shouldnt be played out of position.

    read posts properly before you comment and try to debate with someone who is actually agreeing with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    i think you'll find i was the one who just said he was better next to a DM instead of as the DM. in other words, he shouldnt be played out of position.

    read posts properly before you comment and try to debate with someone who is actually agreeing with you
    Jeez, someones butt hurt over some past shit!

    It's not even a debate, I'm just throwing in my opinion of his role in the team and how the midfield needs tweaking. Don't be so sensitive. I'm not trying to point score with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Jeez, someones butt hurt over some past shit!

    It's not even a debate, I'm just throwing in my opinion of his role in the team and how the midfield needs tweaking. Don't be so sensitive. I'm not trying to point score with you.


    you made something up. i proved you wrong. how is that being butt hurt?

    you said that i said he controlled the midfield. i never. i said he was a controller instead of a tackler. here:

    he's a controller, not a tackler.
    then you said "it's not just him but if we're saying we're playing him out of position to have more possession but we sacrifice a combative midfield for him....I say it's not working out". i never said that. i was the one who said we shouldnt play him out of position i.e. in DM. here:

    which is why when he's played in the DM role he's average. when he's playing next to a DM he's excellent i.e. the season before last. when he's the DM and expected to throw his body about, make tackles etc, he's useless. you might not need a destroyer but you need a level of aggression to ensure the midfield isn't overpowered. with arteta you dont get that feeling.

    buy a DM, stick arteta next to him and watch him flourish again. but as the kingpin of our midfield? do me a favour.
    you really need to learn to read posts properly and also admit something when you're wrong.

    you keep bringing up the past shit, says more about you than me

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post


    you made something up. i proved you wrong. how is that being butt hurt?

    you said that i said he controlled the midfield. i never. i said he was a controller instead of a tackler. here:



    then you said "it's not just him but if we're saying we're playing him out of position to have more possession but we sacrifice a combative midfield for him....I say it's not working out". i never said that. i was the one who said we shouldnt play him out of position i.e. in DM. here:



    you really need to learn to read posts properly and also admit something when you're wrong.

    you keep bringing up the past shit, says more about you than me
    You said, I said.....whatever.

    What's the difference between a controller or controlling the midfield? It just reverts back to the sole point about us not doing well at holding possession and controlling the tempo of the game. There isn't really much to prove here. Even next Song, where Song had the more box to box role, we struggled to control possession.

    Stop being so sensitive.

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    ok go off on one and imply what you want to satisfy whatever agenda you want to set. and im the one who should stop being sensitive yet you're the one who keeps bringing up the past

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    You said, I said.....whatever.

    What's the difference between a controller or controlling the midfield? It just reverts back to the sole point about us not doing well at holding possession and controlling the tempo of the game. There isn't really much to prove here. Even next Song, where Song had the more box to box role, we struggled to control possession.

    Stop being so sensitive.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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