Now you can officially start to panic...

[AKBapologist]

My problem is that I think marketing's valuation of Higuain is correct.

[Ollie the Optimist]

My problem is that I think marketing's valuation of Higuain is correct.

40 million? Interesting.

However, if you agreed a deal, pretty much had it done, be it for a house. Car, p,Ayer whatever, but you agreed a deal and then just before final signature, they turned around and went yeah we said 25 million but now we want 40 million. Would you do business with them?

[AKBapologist]

Ancelloti came in and deemed Higuain to be of much higher worth. If I hadn't signed a contract I can have no expectations over the structure of a deal.

Let's face it though. 23mill for Higuain seemed a bit too good to be true. Especially when that's the going rate for players with less than half the consistency and experience (see shittys latest signings)

[Power n Glory]

Because £30mill is a ridiculous over-valuation. If you look at the fees for deals being done they are all under the stupid £99mill quotes by the make it up as you go media. Suarez isn't worth anywhere near £40mill either. It's a negotiating position, the seller wants as much as he can get, the buyer wants to pay as little as possible. Somewhere a compromise is done. Ultimately it comes down to the player. Just as we couldn't hold RvP so Liverpool won't hold Suarez if he wants to go. Not that we'll get him because city or the chavs can always just keep bidding more. That's where the real problem is, not in the negotiations but the fact some clubs don't have to play the game or even be sane about these things.

There is no point in whinging about the market. Other clubs make do so why can't we? No point in complaining about the lack of quality players if we're not prepared to pay the price for them.

[GP]

I don't think you can point to Man City's dealings as the 'going rate'

[Ollie the Optimist]

Ancelloti came in and deemed Higuain to be of much higher worth. If I hadn't signed a contract I can have no expectations over the structure of a deal.

Let's face it though. 23mill for Higuain seemed a bit too good to be true. Especially when that's the going rate for players with less than half the consistency and experience (see shittys latest signings)

Out of all strikers, Higuain is the one I want. However, Madrid want Suarez and have seen he is going for 40 million. So to me Madrid are basically wanting us to buy Suarez for them, so wenger has decided fuck that, you've been dicks so ill be dick amd just get Suarez.

[AKBapologist]

I don't think you can point to Man City's dealings as the 'going rate'

Sure it is. There's at least 10 clubs that would pay those amounts for established or promising talents. And as long as there is always a man City or a Monaco or a Chelsea with more money than sense the market will always be distorted.

[AKBapologist]

Out of all strikers, Higuain is the one I want. However, Madrid want Suarez and have seen he is going for 40 million. So to me Madrid are basically wanting us to buy Suarez for them, so wenger has decided fuck that, you've been dicks so ill be dick amd just get Suarez.

Probably, but if arsenal were in marketing's position, I'd want the sale of a player to cover a potencial replacement too...

With chavs and napoli interest this deal is truly fucked. Beyond offering higs a massive signing on bonus to offer a transfer request, we may as well bid on suarez.

[Power n Glory]

Is the market to blame if we don't buy anyone? Is that where this debate is heading since we now have money and can't blame the Board?

[Ollie the Optimist]

Probably, but if arsenal were in marketing's position, I'd want the sale of a player to cover a potencial replacement too...

With chavs and napoli interest this deal is truly fucked. Beyond offering higs a massive signing on bonus to offer a transfer request, we may as well bid on suarez.

Are Napoli a bigger club? No, so we can compete with them easily. And why would you want to leave Madrid becaus of lack of playing time and then go and join the manager who didn't play you? So I don't think Chelsea are interested.

There is covering your costs of buying of a replacement, but it's also a dangerous game trying to get all the costs. If we take that 40 million and get Suarez, Madrid miss out on 40 million and/or a player they want. We get a world class striker, they are left with one who doesn't want to play for them and they seemingly don't want.