Now you can officially start to panic...

[Özim]

Do you blame the board at all for lack of spending or do you solely blame wenger?

Both, the board because they don't tell the manager we need to spend to get some top quality in in order that we can challenge and the manager because he refuses to go out and sign the players we need at the price required.

Clearly the board are happy enough for him not to spend as long as we get top 4 and profits remain intact, but as a manager you should be looking to achieve success, this would require him to take a risk and spend some money and thus accepting that top 4 won't be enough for the board if he does.

Basically he's as much to blame as they are, it the board we'rent content they'd send him packing.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Both, the board because they don't tell the manager we need to spend to get some top quality in in order that we can challenge and the manager because he refuses to go out and sign the players we need at the price required.

Clearly the board are happy enough for him not to spend as long as we get top 4 and profits remain intact, but as a manager you should be looking to achieve success, this would require him to take a risk and spend some money and thus accepting that top 4 won't be enough for the board if he does.

Basically he's as much to blame as they are, it the board we'rent content they'd send him packing.

Your first is what is wrong here. It's the wrong way round. Wenge should be saying get me top quality p,ayers and board going out and signing them.

Wengers always dithered, reading about his time with dein, he dithered then, dein just signed them anyway. The board need to do that, that is why they are at fault. Wenger should be signing players amd top class ones, there is no excuse, but as selassie said, it's our negeoaitimg team who seem to be at fault too.

To me, wenger should just say I want x players and leave it up to board to talk money, if they can't get one of his targets, they go back amd he gives them another one. That's how it should be, fault is with wenger for taking too much for control but even more fault is with board for letting him.

[Power n Glory]

I think you can blame the board for not spending this summer as well as wenger. Everyone's complained that wenger is in charge of the finances too much, yet let the board off for not stepping in amd dealing with finances themselves and telling wenger to just worry about the football.

Are they supposed to force him? If he wants Suarez and Liverpool won't sell, what are we to do? He has to identify a realistic target.

[Niall_Quinn]

Do you blame the board at all for lack of spending or do you solely blame wenger?

Wenger murdered 6 million jews, I can never forgive him for that - even if he signs suarez.

[Özim]

Your first is what is wrong here. It's the wrong way round. Wenge should be saying get me top quality p,ayers and board going out and signing them.

Wengers always dithered, reading about his time with dein, he dithered then, dein just signed them anyway. The board need to do that, that is why they are at fault. Wenger should be signing players amd top class ones, there is no excuse, but as selassie said, it's our negeoaitimg team who seem to be at fault too.

To me, wenger should just say I want x players and leave it up to board to talk money, if they can't get one of his targets, they go back amd he gives them another one. That's how it should be, fault is with wenger for taking too much for control but even more fault is with board for letting him.

The problem is Wenger's valuation of players, I genuinely believe Wenger decides how much a player is worth and then tells the club won't shouldn't pay more, he's always talking about money and cost of players etc etc this is a big thing for him. Trouble is the valuation is more often than not below market value.

He makes a profit for the club and he has this in mind in everything he does, he won't go out and pay whatever is necessary for a player as he know it affect profits and put him under more pressure as he would need to deliver a lot more than he currently does.

He a bargain hunter and if someone isn't good value in his mind then he'll not pursue it.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Are they supposed to force him? If he wants Suarez and Liverpool won't sell, what are we to do? He has to identify a realistic target.

He should give the board a list in order of preference
1. Suarez
2. Rooney
3.higuain
(Amd before anyone says we won't buy, this is an example with three strikers we have been linked too)

He shouldn't worry about realistic target as such, let the board try and buy him, let the board negotiate the price. Then if they can't because they can't afford it/club won't sell or whatever, they go down to his next target in the list .

[Niall_Quinn]

He should give the board a list in order of preference
1. Suarez
2. Rooney
3.higuain
(Amd before anyone says we won't buy, this is an example with three strikers we have been linked too)

He shouldn't worry about realistic target as such, let the board try and buy him, let the board negotiate the price. Then if they can't because they can't afford it/club won't sell or whatever, they go down to his next target in the list .

The board can't sell those players, they aren't ours.

[Ollie the Optimist]

The problem is Wenger's valuation of players, I genuinely believe Wenger decides how much a player is worth and then tells the club won't shouldn't pay more, he's always talking about money and cost of players etc etc this is a big thing for him. Trouble is the valuation is more often than not below market value.

He makes a profit for the club and he has this in mind in everything he does, he won't go out and pay whatever is necessary for a player as he know it affect profits and put him under more pressure as he would need to deliver a lot more than he currently does.

He a bargain hunter and if someone isn't good value in his mind then he'll not pursue it.

His valuation is off we can all agree that. I don't think he is a bargain hunter as such, more he won't pay stupid prices. We've bid 30 million for Suarez, that's not a bargain as such, but if Liverpool say we want 60 he won't go there. If they say 35 he probably would.

But you saying board going along with his valuation is weak from them. They should tell him not to worry about price, like dein did

[Niall_Quinn]

You must remember, Kroenke has a responsibility to the shareholders.

[Niall_Quinn]

His valuation is off we can all agree that. I don't think he is a bargain hunter as such, more he won't pay stupid prices. We've bid 30 million for Suarez, that's not a bargain as such, but if Liverpool say we want 60 he won't go there. If they say 35 he probably would.

But you saying board going along with his valuation is weak from them. They should tell him not to worry about price, like dein did

ARSENE WENGER last night finally agreed to make a £40million offer for Luis Suarez — only to be told Liverpool now want £55m.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz2ZU1owbWq

Liverpool don't even know how to haggle properly, they are obviously still sore over the whole Carroll thing.