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    Quote Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga View Post
    Perhaps, still would be worried that would be the end of summer spending though due to the size of the transfer.
    Or would you just be worried that we've finally spent big on proper quality so you're pre-empting that with a bit of goalpost shifting before the fact so you can still complain about the transfer if it happens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga View Post
    2nd best striker in England, I don't agree.

    Aguero is certainly better than he is, as is RVP.

    Perhaps, still would be worried that would be the end of summer spending though due to the size of the transfer.
    rvp is the best striker in england, we all know that. but last season aguero hardly set the world alight. think in terms of goals scored suarez and rvp were top two. (just looked. suarez scored 11 more goals then aguero. 23 v 12)

    i know you think our squad is shit and we need about 400 players to improve it, but i disagree. i think it needs jsut two or three genunie world class players. suarez and a world class midfielder and we are ready. how many world class players did united have last year? RVP for one. they just had very good players in other posistions, i think we are at that stage now. add two or three world class and we are ready.

    and as cripps says above, its a statement. we havnt gone for the cheap option. 20 million for bernard, people look up, say not a bad player but dont take much more notice. get suarez for 40 million, people sit up and take notice. its a hell of statement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Or would you just be worried that we've finally spent big on proper quality so you're pre-empting that with a bit of goalpost shifting before the fact so you can still complain about the transfer if it happens?
    No.

    Firstly let me clear this up again, I don't believe we'll sign him. If by some miracle we did yes I would be worried that our summer has been focussed on bringing just one player in when we've all known we need 3-4 quality players, a team is made up of more than one player and as I said Suarez would effectively be replacing RVP so we'd be nowhere near challenging.

    Would it not be wiser to spend money on bringing several quality players to bring the general level of the team up, superstar signings are great for teams that already have a strong side as an additional strengthening of it, but for sides who need to build a team to get back up there sometimes it's better to spread your resources across the team a bit.

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    We are so far away from this Suarez deal it's painful. No fee agreed, no terms agreed with the player, legal arguments over clauses in contracts, the club don't want to sell, we aren't the player's first choice. This remains far and away the most unlikely signing of the window so far (unless we go and put in a bid for Rooney).

    While this carnival is rolling on I haven't seen any mention of serious activity around any other player. That's a worry. Have we really put all our eggs in one basket and then balanced the basket at the edge of a cliff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    The point. When there's an overt problem (OMG! Everyone can SEE FFS!) people need to rapidly jump a bandwagon and be seen to be doing the easyright thing. But when the problem is covert it is best to stay out of sight and profit as quietly as possible. And if in the first case some people don't sing loudly enough then everyone else is entitled to call them a hypocrite.
    As said last week, you can’t trivialise the Evra and Suarez issue, brush it aside as minor and then talk about the MLK days and ‘real’ racism. With that sort of attitude, you never get to the root of the problem. You’ve got to combat racism on all levels otherwise it grows and you get scenes like what we saw with the England under 21 team in Eastern Europe.

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    Ffs zim, you're making me and Ollie agree.

    Banning offence surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga View Post
    I agree with this, however we won't be seeing any of those players this summer and as good as Suarez is he won't be turning us into challengers for silverware by himself, last year we had RVP who bagged 39 goals and we still couldn't challenge.
    yes but look at the squad RVP played with to the one suarez would play with. just take the forward line. rap, chamkh, bentner theo. or suarez, theo, giroud, podolski.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    yes but look at the squad RVP played with to the one suarez would play with. just take the forward line. rap, chamkh, bentner theo. or suarez, theo, giroud, podolski.
    We also have a fit Wilshere, a defence that is finally showing some form.

    We need players, of course but we're more of a team these days rather than a one man team when the **** was here

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    rvp is the best striker in england, we all know that. but last season aguero hardly set the world alight. think in terms of goals scored suarez and rvp were top two. (just looked. suarez scored 11 more goals then aguero. 23 v 12)

    i know you think our squad is shit and we need about 400 players to improve it, but i disagree. i think it needs jsut two or three genunie world class players. suarez and a world class midfielder and we are ready. how many world class players did united have last year? RVP for one. they just had very good players in other posistions, i think we are at that stage now. add two or three world class and we are ready.

    and as cripps says above, its a statement. we havnt gone for the cheap option. 20 million for bernard, people look up, say not a bad player but dont take much more notice. get suarez for 40 million, people sit up and take notice. its a hell of statement
    I'd take Aguero over him, he's still the most influential player in the City side and is one of the best around regardless of what happened last season.

    If we sign Suarez that will be it, I can't see any more money being spent, so we won't be seeing these two to three world class players, just the one.

    Does it matter if people sit up and take notice though, it's more about what they do on the pitch as I've said before the thought of a genuine Brazilian at Arsenal excites me just because he's not been as high profile as Suarez that's not to say in a year's time he won't be, the likes of Ronaldinho where not know when they came to Europe either that's how it tends to work with Brazilians.

    Anyway I don't mind the signing of Suarez, just think blowing all your budget on one single player when the team is lacking is several departments isn't the wisest thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    yes but look at the squad RVP played with to the one suarez would play with. just take the forward line. rap, chamkh, bentner theo. or suarez, theo, giroud, podolski.
    What about the midfield, goalkeeper and to an extent defence though?

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