Luis Suarez thread

[Power n Glory]

rvp is the best striker in england, we all know that. but last season aguero hardly set the world alight. think in terms of goals scored suarez and rvp were top two. (just looked. suarez scored 11 more goals then aguero. 23 v 12)

i know you think our squad is shit and we need about 400 players to improve it, but i disagree. i think it needs jsut two or three genunie world class players. suarez and a world class midfielder and we are ready. how many world class players did united have last year? RVP for one. they just had very good players in other posistions, i think we are at that stage now. add two or three world class and we are ready.

and as cripps says above, its a statement. we havnt gone for the cheap option. 20 million for bernard, people look up, say not a bad player but dont take much more notice. get suarez for 40 million, people sit up and take notice. its a hell of statement

We need defensive cover as well. Bulking up the attack won’t mean a thing if we’ve got shaky legs. We don’t want to return to the old days where we were top heavy on attack but floored easily on counters because our defence was so weak. Injuries are already racking up and it’s a worry.

[Özim]

Ffs zim, you're making me and Ollie agree.

Banning offence surely?

So you would rather have just one player this summer (Suarez) than 3 quality ones (and maybe a 4th player), not talking players like Vermaelen or Chamakh either, genuine quality?

IMO the squad looks weak, shockingly weak, even with Suarez we'd be an injury or two from disaster.

[Ollie the Optimist]

What about the midfield, goalkeeper and to an extent defence though?

defence was second best in the league last season, wasnt when van persie played. so thats improved. midfield, players have got better, devolped more, ie jack, ramsey, ox etc. cazorla is a huge improvement.

goalkeeper, we need a decent number 2 to challenge chesney, i will give you that.

with the squad though, in terms of personnell, it might not have chagned that much since van persie played, but the players have. they are better, fitter, know each others style of play, formed partnerships etc. its a much stronger squad then when van persie played with them

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Wenger curb his behaviour?

Can't see it myself, he let Barndoor get away with allsorts (headbutts, almost attacking a referee) has let his players run amok for years defending everything they do.

Suarez will probably become the new Joey Barton under this kind of discipline!

you know what i mean though, a proper manager who has a deep respect in the footballing world. someone who's very philosophical and a father figure. not novices like rodgers.

will be interesting to see how wenger handles a ticking timebomb like suarez though, as you say.

[Özim]

defence was second best in the league last season, wasnt when van persie played. so thats improved. midfield, players have got better, devolped more, ie jack, ramsey, ox etc. cazorla is a huge improvement.

goalkeeper, we need a decent number 2 to challenge chesney, i will give you that.

with the squad though, in terms of personnell, it might not have chagned that much since van persie played, but the players have. they are better, fitter, know each others style of play, formed partnerships etc. its a much stronger squad then when van persie played with them

Yeah to be honest, I'm not convinced that wasn't just a blip you might well find that it goes back to normal this season, we were pretty poor for large parts last season as well in defence it's only at the end of the season we improved, in addition look at the injuries we're already racking up.

Cazorla is excellent if a little fairweather at times, Wilshere is injury prone and unproven, he's got a big reputation but has done little to back it up thus far, Ramsey yeah less said the better about him.

I don't think we're much better than when RVP left, we were awful last season, truly awful just look at some of our performances and results, as I said the min run at the end of the season was always going to mask our defficiencies as it always seems to do.

[Ollie the Optimist]

I'd take Aguero over him, he's still the most influential player in the City side and is one of the best around regardless of what happened last season.

If we sign Suarez that will be it, I can't see any more money being spent, so we won't be seeing these two to three world class players, just the one.

Does it matter if people sit up and take notice though, it's more about what they do on the pitch as I've said before the thought of a genuine Brazilian at Arsenal excites me just because he's not been as high profile as Suarez that's not to say in a year's time he won't be, the likes of Ronaldinho where not know when they came to Europe either that's how it tends to work with Brazilians.

Anyway I don't mind the signing of Suarez, just think blowing all your budget on one single player when the team is lacking is several departments isn't the wisest thing to do.

one striker scored 23 goals with jordan henderson in midfield. the other scored 12 with david silva in midfield. i think i know which one is more influential.

i think its good to make people sit up. how many times do we hear journalists sneering at us. just have a look at them on twitter now, they are so arrogant towards arsenal and their bid for suarez. it shuts them up, it shows we mean buisness. Arsenal have jsut gone out and payed 40 million for a world class striker. it shows we arent going for the top four trophy, it shows we want to win and are going for it. none of this taking gambles anymore on cheaper players. world class, 40 million done. people sit up and take notice and will look at us with a bit of fear unlike htey do now.

or is it partly you are worreid that everything you say about wenger is being proved wrong. hes not winner, he wont spend, just comfortable with top four. signing suarez proves all that wrong, and you dont want to admit you are wrong and wenger proved you wrong

[Cripps_orig]

So you would rather have just one player this summer (Suarez) than 3 quality ones (and maybe a 4th player), not talking players like Vermaelen or Chamakh either, genuine quality?

IMO the squad looks weak, shockingly weak, even with Suarez we'd be an injury or two from disaster.

Chances of us getting 3 quality players this summer is practically zero. We have seen how long it takes for s to buy one player. To get 3, it's impossible. We'd need to ask for an extension to transfer deadline and that won't happen cos it SLAMS SHUT end of August.

So in that case, get Suarez in, maybe another keeper seeing as Cesar is available n a free. Midfield is a weak point so maybe set aside some cash for that.

[Özim]

Chances of us getting 3 quality players this summer is practically zero. We have seen how long it takes for s to buy one player. To get 3, it's impossible. We'd need to ask for an extension to transfer deadline and that won't happen cos it SLAMS SHUT end of August.

So in that case, get Suarez in, maybe another keeper seeing as Cesar is available n a free. Midfield is a weak point so maybe set aside some cash for that.

I agree with you, maybe I'm just thinking about what happens at normal clubs.

If we're going to get one signing then signing Suarez would be pretty good, was just hoping to see a few quality players coming through the door for once so we can believe we can pick up some silverware again.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Yeah to be honest, I'm not convinced that wasn't just a blip you might well find that it goes back to normal this season, we were pretty poor for large parts last season as well in defence it's only at the end of the season we improved, in addition look at the injuries we're already racking up.

Cazorla is excellent if a little fairweather at times, Wilshere is injury prone and unproven, he's got a big reputation but has done little to back it up thus far, Ramsey yeah less said the better about him.

I don't think we're much better than when RVP left, we were awful last season, truly awful just look at some of our performances and results, as I said the min run at the end of the season was always going to mask our defficiencies as it always seems to do.

think thats harsh to call cazorla fairweather. he was exceptional last season given it was his first season.

one stat i saw last season was only two teams never lost games they took the lead in. one of them was us. (cant remember the other one, think it was city though) so holding onto a lead wasnt our problem, it was getting the lead. suarez will get us leads. the defence showed last season it was ready. i felt all season our problem was attack and getting big goals. its all very well scoring 4/5 goals against reading, we need big goals against citys, uniteds etc. suarez i think will give us that.

[Kano]

yaya toure is the most influential player in the man city team.

aguero had a great first season. struggled badly with injury and form in a much lower scoring team last time round.

you can't call him the second best in the league based on achievements two seasons ago, that's nuts.

he has the potential to be but still needs to do it. next season will tell all.

as it stands rvp, suarez and bale are the best strikers. and let's not kid ourselves. bale is a striker in the ronaldo mould.