Luis Suarez thread

[LDG]

This makes no sense to me, how does his camp not know, when the contract was signed this would have been negotiated. They either know or they don't, there's no in between.

Liverpool haven't said anything about it. They haven't said we've done anything wrong.

Therefore, one would assume, we said £35mil. They said, cock off, there's a clause for 40+ and we called it.

If we're making shit up without knowing the true story, then this sounds more plausible to me.

[Özim]

Do you not think that we were pissed off about the tapping up of Cesc, or Nasri, or Cashley, or Henry.....?? Did that make a difference?

It's player power nowadays, and all weve done is put more of the ball in Suarez's court. Shitty? Yes. But you want us to show ambition....that's the way you do it now.

Not Liverpools fault to be fair and we've tapped up our fair share of kids as well so we're not totally innocent (Flamini when we signed him p*ssed off his club as well).

Yes we probably were, but we didn't really try hard enough to keep them in recent years, we just seem to feed them empty promises year on year and that won't convince a player every year.

It's only player power because clubs choose to give in, Man City didn't with Tevez and he ended up coming running back with his tail between his legs, they all will eventually they'll have no choice.

As for showing ambition yes I do, just find it odd that a club would bid £1 extra, it's an odd thing to do.

[Özim]

Liverpool haven't said anything about it. They haven't said we've done anything wrong.

Therefore, one would assume, we said £35mil. They said, cock off, there's a clause for 40+ and we called it.

If we're making shit up without knowing the true story, then this sounds more plausible to me.

But Liverpool don't want to sell so are you saying him talking to us is nonsense as well then?

[Letters]

Maybe they should have bid a bit more seeing as Liverpool were always going to reject 40 million (maybe 40.25 million or something), isn't that the usual way.

The initial bid seems a pretty clear attempt to trigger the clause in Suarez's contract which means he can talk to us.
If we do that and it's clear Suarez doesn't want to join us anyway (or his salary expectations are significantly different to what we're prepared to offer) then fine but unless we have that conversation there's no point wasting time trying to agree a fee with Liverpool.

You moan we don't make big bids for proper players, then you say you don't believe we have, now you're saying it's the wrong bid.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Not Liverpools fault to be fair and we've tapped up our fair share of kids as well so we're not totally innocent.

Yes we probably were, but we didn't really try hard enough to keep them in recent years, we just seem to feed them empty promises year on year and that won't convince a player every year.

It's only player power because clubs choose to give in, Man City didn't with Tevez and he ended up coming running back with his tail between his legs, they all will eventually they'll have no choice.

As for showing ambition yes I do, just find it odd that a club would bid £1 extra, it's an odd thing to do.

yeah tevez hardly ran back to the club with his tail between his legs when he still picking up 280k a week or whatever ridclous wage he was on.

and you say empty promises, what can liverpool promise him? not much really. no champions league, hardly world class players alongside him, maybe a long cup run? tahts its. really

[Niall_Quinn]

Racism existed before the corporation. I knew you’d go off on a tangent. Again, wood for the trees. Do you really think racism was created in a vacuum?

If you view the root causes (which supposedly I'm avoiding) as a tangent then there's nowhere left to go, is there? Also, if specifically drawing your attention to the wood is to be taken as ignoring the wood in favour of the trees (the Suarez incident being a wood rather than a tree in this case, I suppose?), then you win that round too. Well done. And I guess most of what I posted fell off your screen which is the only way you could reach the conclusion I image racism is created in a vacuum. Your faith in the individual is touching, notwithstanding the facts. Some might say the abject failure of the individual to demonstrate even a hint of personal responsibility in favour of abdicating it to centralised authority lies at the heart of most social and political problems. They'd be right, obviously.

[Özim]

The initial bid seems a pretty clear attempt to trigger the clause in Suarez's contract which means he can talk to us.
If we do that and it's clear Suarez doesn't want to join us anyway (or his salary expectations are significantly different to what we're prepared to offer) then fine but unless we have that conversation there's no point wasting time trying to agree a fee with Liverpool.

You moan we don't make big bids for proper players, then you say you don't believe we have, now you're saying it's the wrong bid.

Again though, noone seems to know about this clause, could be total b*llocks.

I don't even know if it's true, but like I said if it is it will p*ss off his club, the extra £1 just seems like a patronising p*ss take to me.

[Özim]

yeah tevez hardly ran back to the club with his tail between his legs when he still picking up 280k a week or whatever ridclous wage he was on.

and you say empty promises, what can liverpool promise him? not much really. no champions league, hardly world class players alongside him, maybe a long cup run? tahts its. really

Well yeah he did, he backtracked and ended up coming back like a good boy and playing despite being adamant he was leaving.

So I would say he came back with his tail between his legs.

Liverpool don't have much except the promise of regular football and a guaranteed transfer next season (possibly to a club like Real which must be his preference as he wanted to leave England). Signing for us would delay any possible move to one of football's biggest clubs for sure.

[Letters]

The bid is pretty clear indication that the clause exists.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Again though, noone seems to know about this clause, could be total b*llocks.

I don't even know if it's true, but like I said if it is it will p*ss off his club, the extra £1 just seems like a patronising p*ss take to me.

if it works, we are geniuses. if it doesnt, suarez still wants to join, liverpool will accept 50 million. theyve already stated he is for sale at that price. there is nothing to lose in waht we did