Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[I_Killed_Kenny]

Well no, not really. Players have agents and those agents will be aware of the clubs that want their client and the money on offer. You'll never win a bidding war against PSG or Monaco. Falcao isn't just going to say to himself "well Arsenal are doubling my salary I better sign for them quickly" instead he'll sit on a beach and wait for the offers to come in and make his choice - which just so happened to be a tiny club in Monaco with tax free status paying him £300k pw net.

There's no such thing as "wrapping things up" when it comes to signing a top player. There's a long protracted bidding war if other top clubs want the same player.

I disagree there. monaco sorted things pretty quickly and easily for falcao cos they can afford to pay giant fees etc, same with PSG and cavani so yes it can be done to avoid a bidding war (but yes i know, we arent in that bracket, just saying is all)

theres no harm in starting the bidding war either. til monaco came in for falcao the papers were all saying it was roughly 30-35m for chelsea i think. At that stage we could compete and bid. who knows if that would have made monaco look elsewhere and left him to us and chelsea to fight it out say. they didnt even try to bid, they just paid the asking fee and thats it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger is deluded and if we don’t bring in quality this season then he’s to blame and it’s his decision. It makes no sense for Ivan to make such a big fuss about our spending power and place all that pressure on Wenger if we were only interested in settling for 4th. If he knows Wenger can deliver 4th on the cheap, then why rock the boat like this?

Because Ivan's audience is the business community. He'll view the deal with the Nigerian bank as our top signing of the window.

[JonasTC]

Well yeah I agree, but we're not RM or Barca. We're possibly the 10th most attractive club to sign for.

I dont know about that in pure "attractive" sense, i only see clubs like Barca, RM, Bayern or Man Utd as more attractive (if i should be impartial ofc, otherwise we're nr1 without a doubt >_<). But alot of clubs beat us on money, like psg, chelsea, city, monaco, etc.

[Niall_Quinn]

I'd say he's been deluded, after all he's claimed we're in the title hunt more than once.

Of course he says we're in the title hunt. The club charges the highest ticket prices in the world, you need to have a sales pitch to fill the seats.

[Grebbo]

I dont know about that in pure "attractive" sense, i only see clubs like Barca, RM, Bayern or Man Utd as more attractive (if i should be impartial ofc, otherwise we're nr1 without a doubt >_<). But alot of clubs beat us on money, like psg, chelsea, city, monaco, etc.

Whilst I include the sugar daddy's in the clubs more attractive than us it's also worth noting that Arsenal haven't won anything for almost 10 years. So a 27yr old player in his prime hasn't seen us win anything since he was a teenager. That's a pretty big deal. Chelsea are a small club with a big owner to us but to a footballer they're a bigger club than us because they have consistently won trophies in the past decade. And not just trophies but major trophies.

[selassie]

Whilst I include the sugar daddy's in the clubs more attractive than us it's also worth noting that Arsenal haven't won anything for almost 10 years. So a 27yr old player in his prime hasn't seen us win anything since he was a teenager. That's a pretty big deal. Chelsea are a small club with a big owner to us but to a footballer they're a bigger club than us because they have consistently won trophies in the past decade. And not just trophies but major trophies.

Yep, if we want the best then we are certainly going to need to pay up in both the transfer fee and wages. It's no good chasing elite talent if we are still in the mindset of paying low fees and wages.

Clubs are not going to roll over for us and let us cherry pick their stars at prices we dictate. The selling club dictates the fee and the buying club more often than not will have to pay as close to the fee as the selling club dictates, that's how the market has always worked.

[Power n Glory]

Because Ivan's audience is the business community. He'll view the deal with the Nigerian bank as our top signing of the window.

That still makes no sense. If Wenger's his golden goose, why put all the pressure on him so he gets the chop if all turns sour this summer? If we're content with 4th and Wenger delivers what's required, why risk losing him when he's so good at keeping costs low?

[ENSKIED]

Whilst I include the sugar daddy's in the clubs more attractive than us it's also worth noting that Arsenal haven't won anything for almost 10 years. So a 27yr old player in his prime hasn't seen us win anything since he was a teenager. That's a pretty big deal. Chelsea are a small club with a big owner to us but to a footballer they're a bigger club than us because they have consistently won trophies in the past decade. And not just trophies but major trophies.

Well basically bought the trophies . . . .

[Power n Glory]

It’s all bought. Football just isn’t a pure sport anymore.

[LDG]

It’s all bought. Football just isn’t a pure sport anymore.

Pretty much.

We keep asking Wenger to wake up and get with the programme. We can't expect him to if we're living in the past ourselves.

Football as we knew and loved it is now fucked, and you can either choose to go along with it and shrug your shoulders, try and do something about it (LoL) or just not pay any interest.

All this "buying trophies" malarky is the way it's done now.

I hope that the arse falls out of it at some point, and we get our game back, but for now, we're stuck with it, and no amount of whinging or moaning about it is going to change it.