Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[Bury Da Bwoy]

I think alot of people are not grasping how much of a piss take that £40mill bid was.


Now don't get me wrong, £40mill is a very big bid and nothing to turn your nose up at.


But the fact that we believed a bid above £40mill would trigger a release clause so we put only £1 above the barrier to get the job done, clearly would piss anyone off. The arsenal board and wenger included have got to be absolute retards to think liverpool would accept that bid. If they would've made a bid of £41mill I doubt anyone would have anything to say. It just comes down to us being utter twats with that extra £1

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Grebbo, old habits die hard. Nothing has changed, nothing will change with that "control freak of a man" in charge running everything from training sessions to approving the canteen menu.
Whilst I was always skeptical of us making "statement" signings, things did start to look quite promising earlier on in the summer.

All of that optimism has now been removed, we've reverted to type, refusing to meet clubs valuations...dithering....then the excuses, defiancy will set in soon, expect stuff such as "this is the best squad I have ever worked with", "everybody in england thinks buying is the solution", all that kind of rubbish.

What we need is top tier quality, nothing else will do IMHO.

I remember this. And people were defending it too.

[Ollie the Optimist]

I think alot of people are not grasping how much of a piss take that £40mill bid was.


Now don't get me wrong, £40mill is a very big bid and nothing to turn your nose up at.


But the fact that we believed a bid above £40mill would trigger a release clause so we put only £1 above the barrier to get the job done, clearly would piss anyone off. The arsenal board and wenger included have got to be absolute retards to think liverpool would accept that bid. If they would've made a bid of £41mill I doubt anyone would have anything to say. It just comes down to us being utter twats with that extra £1

i dont think it would have been wenger adding on that extra £1, he probably would have said 40 million but left it to the board to offer teh money. but if it was a release clause, liverpool wouldnt have had a choice over accepting it, they would have had to accept it. be it 1 pound or 1 million.

but they club got fucked over by agents and then fucked over themselves. we look like dicks, its cost us anohter striker and its absoutly infuriating

[Letters]

With Giroud up front and Yaya Sanago on the treatment table.

Don't forget we also have Diaby who can lie there.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

i dont think it would have been wenger adding on that extra £1, he probably would have said 40 million but left it to the board to offer teh money. but if it was a release clause, liverpool wouldnt have had a choice over accepting it, they would have had to accept it. be it 1 pound or 1 million.

but they club got fucked over by agents and then fucked over themselves. we look like dicks, its cost us anohter striker and its absoutly infuriating

Isn't there some kind of protocol that is observed when dealing with all matters surrounding transfers, bids and release clauses? Or do the Club go by word of mouth of a few shady agents?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I do hope that was the case and the agent got it completely wrong, and that it's set in stone that there is no release clause.

Not because it's Arsenal or even Suarez but because it's about time an agent, one as slimy as Pere clearly is, got slapped down. He'll have thought all along that he had the club by the short ones but actually he's just made himself, his player and [unfortunately for you] the buying club look like mugs, and probably strengthened our resolve in the process.

[selassie]

I think everyone knows we need top tier quality, even Wenger himself.

We've bid £40m for a top tier striker. You and others will probably say "but what's the point of bidding below the players value?"

Well two things....

1. £40m for Suarez is a very fair offer, we haven't low balled them whatsoever. £40m FFS!! How many teams in the world have paid £40m for a player??? People will say "just bid £50m and get it done" well it's not that simple. You can bid £50m and Liverpool still won't sell, bid £60m, bid £70m etc where does it end??

2. Then you've got the player. Arsenal are not high on the list for desirable clubs for top players to join, fact. Suarez would rather play for Madrid so even if Liverpool except your offer Suarez might hold out for RM. He's got no need to rush, he's suspended for the first 6 games. He can wait until deadline day in the hope for a top club to come in for him. Why would he move to us now, much better to keep his options open. Then what?? Move on to the next top striker available.... who's that??


One of the biggest clubs on the planet is going to have to pay £80m+ for Bale. A relatively small, non-Champions league club is getting RM to beg and ultimately over-pay for a player who's undoubtably very very good but £80m+??

That's how tough it is to sign top players.

I do see your side of things but ultimately it's the way we go about negotiating and our seemingly hap hazard transfer policy that really gets me. At the end of the day, Liverpool have made it clear to us what they value the player at, right now we're a good 10mill short.

If we offered the amount Liverpool see fit, then Suarez would have a decision to make, fair enough if he doesn't commit to joining us, we would have tried as much as possible but the player didn't want to come. The fact that we've now stalled on the deal doesn't do us or him any favours, we've made it easy for all parties involved.

It doesn't matter how many clubs have paid 40million for a player, the bottomline is we want an elite talent off one of our rivals and ultimately we are going to have to pay through the nose if we want him.

Sure we are not high on players wishlists of clubs to join, that's why we are going to need to either pay a high fee or wage, maybe both in some cases to entice a player to the club.

If the S*um value Bale at 80mill then that's what Real are going to have to pay to sign him, sure his value is astronomical but that's what they value his worth at.

I do appreciate that these big deals take time to complete but we are all kidding ourselves if we think Liverpool will let Suarez leave on deadline day without a replacement. Yet again we have been let down by poor planning and hopeless negotiations.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Isn't there some kind of protocol that is observed when dealing with all matters surrounding transfers, bids and release clauses? Or do the Club go by word of mouth of a few shady agents?

its seems on this one they've gone by shady agents. get us involved, get suarez wanting out, make sure liverpool dont deal with us, get him his dream move to madrid and bumper pay day for agent.

what protocol would there be? any bid over x amount and the club have to sell? why not bid 1 pound over isntead of a million?

[Cripps_orig]

Apparently Valencia want Giroud.

I don't particularly rate the pubber but the chances of buying a replacement are virtually nonexistent so keep him

[Niall_Quinn]

The £1 was always going to be picked up by the media. It was designed to insult Liverpool and harden their resolve. It worked.