Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[Power n Glory]

I think we stuck by RVP longer and when he was nowhere near world class.. he fucked us over. Dont care if these guys fuck over their respective clubs.

Time for Shrek and Donkay to come home tbh..

You've seen our lunatic manager this summer. Why would you stay for another season when he out right refuses to sign better players to help the team? We'll always have a revolving door here if Wenger doesn't change.

Rooney is on good wages, plays for a title winning side and I can't understand why he's so desperate to leave. This year....well....I can understand since Moyes has taken over but the transfer request he handed in some seasons before sours things in my opinion. Unless he wants a new challenge, I think he needs to explain himself.

Suarez....after the dragging Liverpool's name through the mud and they've stuck by him.....it's really bad if he leaves them now. By any standard in life, that just looks bad when you get that sort of support and then you leave for club that isn't that much better. It's hardly an opportunity of a life time for him.

[Power n Glory]

Pretty much. What Cisc and RVC did to Arsenal is far worse.

Wazza isn't getting JT and Lamps to tap him up publicly at every opportunity and secretly asking them to put a Chelsea shirt on him, while pretending to be injured.

Suarez hasn't been injured for his whole Liverpool career, picking up wages in the treatment room and then posting hollow, cringeworthy updates to the fans on his website, while being in contact with his proposed next manager for months.

Both are acting professionally so far, unlike our gallant captains.

Even Nasri behaved better than them.

And no, I'm not being Cripps for a day. Their behaviour was as slimy and cynical as it gets. They well and truly got one over Wenfer. And sections of the fan base, who in their sheer (and yes, justified) hatred of the club, absolved them of all the blame, but will now apportion it all to Shrek and Sharky in similar sagas of selfishness, betrayal and cuntery.

It's not in the same ball park. As said, I can understand why Bale wants to move. It's Real Madrid and he plays for Spurs. Which player wouldn't want that sort of opportunity?

[Marc Overmars]

I think Suarez would deserve the contempt from Liverpool fans should he join us. You can't expect their fans to understand the move after he cited the media as a reason for wanting out, only to then want to join another club in the same country. They also staunchly stuck by him and made themselves look silly in the process, even when he was clearly in the wrong, but they did it anyway because he was one of their own. He owes them a lot in truth.

He's a **** but hopefully he'll be our **** soon.

[Master Splinter]

Their reasons might be understandable, but their behaviour after everything Arsenal and Wenger had done for them certainly wasn't. It was unnecessary, too, which makes their actions far worse in context. I don't feel personally slighted by them. Modern football is a cut-throat, horrible business after all. But excusing them and criticising others really makes no sense.

[Niall_Quinn]

Probably no player can be singled out, they are all cunts. In it for themselves entirely but what they don't realise is they don't even exist if the fans aren't there. They are just shit on the streets. The fans made them, no matter how much talent they have. The fans made all those fancy board room arseholes too, it's our money they feast on. A year after judas stabbed us in the back we are hoping his brother signs up. What can we expect from that I wonder? An people will say this is normal and indeed it is normal. And that's the huge problem. Unbounded cuntishness is normal. Well you take that and expand it out to economics and politics and media and every aspect of life and you get exactly what you see in front of you today. We can say it's normal but it seems incredibly dumb and self defeating to say normal is okay. Inside a looney bin mad people are normal. Wouldn't want to live there though. There must be some clever way to hold all these cunts that are ruining football to account.

I thin Wenger a stubborn nutter but in the end isn't he one of the few (if not the only one) who hasn't bought into this shit just because it is "normal"? Catch 22, we want to win but we have to be utter cunts to do it. Is there another way? Does any of Wenger's thinking hold water?

[Power n Glory]

Their reasons might be understandable, but their behaviour after everything Arsenal and Wenger had done for them certainly wasn't. It was unnecessary, too, which makes their actions far worse in context. I don't feel personally slighted by them. Modern football is a cut-throat, horrible business after all. But excusing them and criticising others really makes no sense.

That's a matter of opinion. Would you say the same about Henry and the way he left? He signed a new contract and then left a year later. He spent a good deal of that season 'injured' and looking very sulky. He went public to the press demanding a change before the Spurs game out of sheer frustration and wouldn't kill the Barca link for 2 years running. His dissatisfaction with the club was more vocal and visible on the pitch compared to Cesc and RVP's exits. Plus he signed an agreement the year before!

But I understand why and this summer makes things even more clear. This little merry go round we've been given by the club, the players have gone through it enough and all of them have been convinced by Wenger to stay on only to find that he's up to the same old tricks. It's got to be hard to tolerate the blatant lies. It's the same pattern. Henry had sit down talks with the club, he was promised a change, they went back on their word so he left. Cesc had that great talk with Wenger but a season later he was off. RVP went in to talk with Gazidis and Wenger and they must have straight up told him the deal and he was off.

There is a lot of treachery in football, but there is no denying our club is taking serious liberties. Rooney will have to explain himself. I can understand if he wants a new challenge and to push himself with a new team because he's done it all at Man Utd. But I don't want to hear any crap about that team lacking ambition. That's balls! It's like Ronaldo comparing his stay at Madrid as slavery. It's hard to fathom.

[Master Splinter]

Yeah, Henry and Viera were just as bad as RVC and Fabregas. Vieira was an utter turd in fact (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...urns-ugly.html). Henry was shit in his last year, much like Fabregas was for the last 18 months. RVC had one season in which he was fully fit, so it would have dissuaded his grand Uncle Fergie from putting in a bid if he'd sulked on his first opportunity to show a consistent output.

Just on the subject of RVC and Fabregas though, my point was that they had no reason to go through all that nonsense. Handing in a transfer request would have had the same outcome, seeing as how Wenger is obliging to all the whims of all his special project youth players.

Differentiating between the levels of shitty behaviour is ultimately pointless. They're all cunts. They're all self-interested. They're all modern-day footballers.

[Master Splinter]

I thin Wenger a stubborn nutter but in the end isn't he one of the few (if not the only one) who hasn't bought into this shit just because it is "normal"? Catch 22, we want to win but we have to be utter cunts to do it. Is there another way? Does any of Wenger's thinking hold water?

You said "I thin Wenger".

[Munchies]

http://z13.invisionfree.com/goonersw...last_post&st=0

Was just going through some old topics on the old invision board,

Same problems

' Worrying Stat : Sunderland have scored MORE away goals than us !'

Fats : ' and I have more points on my driving licence than they do in the league '

[Özim]

Personally I think Wenger deserved it, years of BS and hype and he never put his money where his mouth is. Eventually the players recognise that he's a dreamer with no hope of being successful.

Sure he supported them but that was his choice and his way of making sure we didn't have to spend sh*t.

He's like the guy you meet who tells you all these big stories, eventually you find out he's full of sh*t and you don't listen to anything he says anymore, it's entertaining but that's about it.