Luis Suarez thread

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

He's not what I had in mind when I wanted big signings, for a start I never wanted us to spend that kind of money on a player (unless he was one of the very best around and this guy isn't), we need investment all over the team, 3-4 top quality players not 1 mercenary who gets into trouble everywhere he goes and screws his club over at the 1st opportunity.

you did say in another thread a few weeks back that you prioritised a top striker because you need a world class striker to win trophies. i remember backing you up in that thread as i pointed out if we kept van persie we would have gained around 10 more points over the course of the season, putting us up there with the big boys. well suarez is a top class striker, so according to your and mine logic, would really help us compete.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

here's what you said:

He's signed a new contract fairly recently, has shown himself to be a top top striker and Liverpool don't want to sell. So yeah he's worth 40 million.
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...l=1#post298364

followed by:

It's not a fair comparison at all, a seller just wants a certain amount of cash for his asset (rarely is there a bidding war)...however with a player there's other things involved, like not wanting to sell to a rival, a player not wanting to move somewhere......and in this case the club not wanting to sell. Don't fool yourself into thinking we're attractive to Suarez, there's much bigger clubs who would be interested, clubs who sign top players, spend big and do anything to achieve success and achieve success. We have no chance of signing him.
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...l=1#post298368

although you did say we need more than 1 striker tbf:

I disagree on the striker front, reason being in big games you only get a handful of chances and more often than not those will fall to strikers. With a top striker who can finish you know there's a much better chance of him taking those chances that come his way in these games....the lesser striker have a tendency to blow those crucial game winning chances.

I do think we could use a tricky winger and tough tackling midfielder, but I also think we need a top class striker to finish off the chances. A new goalie would have been good too, Chesney showed last season he's not ready.
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...l=1#post298379

just pointing out that you seemed to really rate him very highly by the sounds of it so you cant and say he's not the type of signing you had in mind, when you classify him as being out of our reach in those posts. he's world class, he's exactly what we need mate!

[Cripps_orig]

Suarez is one of the best strikers in the world.

Don't understand why anyone wouldn't want him

[Niall_Quinn]

Suarez is one of the best strikers in the world.

Don't understand why anyone wouldn't want him

The point is we have to get him and if we can't we have to get somebody else of note. This had better not be one crazy roll of the dice with the only alternative to go into the new season with Sanogo as our only business.

[hobson's choice]

It feels good to be the "other" team for once. I'm loving the fact that people are gonna hate Arsenal more.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I think your definition of "safe" sounds bloody dangerous to me, in relation to transfer deals, players and agents at least. Let's see ink on a contract and also have plenty of voice recorders in the room.

WTF does 'ink on a contract' have to do with 'safe'?

[Özim]

here's what you said:

He's signed a new contract fairly recently, has shown himself to be a top top striker and Liverpool don't want to sell. So yeah he's worth 40 million.
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...l=1#post298364

followed by:

It's not a fair comparison at all, a seller just wants a certain amount of cash for his asset (rarely is there a bidding war)...however with a player there's other things involved, like not wanting to sell to a rival, a player not wanting to move somewhere......and in this case the club not wanting to sell. Don't fool yourself into thinking we're attractive to Suarez, there's much bigger clubs who would be interested, clubs who sign top players, spend big and do anything to achieve success and achieve success. We have no chance of signing him.
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...l=1#post298368

although you did say we need more than 1 striker tbf:

I disagree on the striker front, reason being in big games you only get a handful of chances and more often than not those will fall to strikers. With a top striker who can finish you know there's a much better chance of him taking those chances that come his way in these games....the lesser striker have a tendency to blow those crucial game winning chances.

I do think we could use a tricky winger and tough tackling midfielder, but I also think we need a top class striker to finish off the chances. A new goalie would have been good too, Chesney showed last season he's not ready.
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...l=1#post298379

just pointing out that you seemed to really rate him very highly by the sounds of it so you cant and say he's not the type of signing you had in mind, when you classify him as being out of our reach in those posts. he's world class, he's exactly what we need mate!

I never said he wasn't a good player though (clearly he is) and as far as being worth the money, in this scenario he's worth what Liverpool deem him to be worth as he's got a contract which has gone a while to run and Liverpool don't want to sell, so in that sense he's worth 50 million.

Do I think he's actually worth spending 50 million on though, no, I don't think he's that good that he's worth the 50 million, that kind of money for me is the sort of money we should pay someone who is special and for someone who has marketability (as mentioned before someone like Neymar is much more marketable).

So yes I think he's very good (he scored a lot of goals last season) but I do think based on one season and his disciplinary record that kind of money is more than we should be paying as the team needs far more than one player. The other thing is and what you guys seem to ignore, it's all very good right now when he's kicking up a fuss at another club, but come a year or two he'll do the same to us and he'll get himself banned again as well, he's a troublemaker....and whilst he appeals now when we get screwed over it won't feel so good.

Incidentally I do think we need a striker to finish off the chances and I stand by the point I made, however if we signed him whilst he would improve the team it wouldn't be a magic recipe for success, he's suspended for 6 games and one player isn't going to solve our problems, the level of the team needs raising across the board. As mentioned before this would be returning us to a level when we had RVP and whilst he scored lots of goals we never won anything then either because we lacked quality in other areas.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Like I said where are the lawyers if he's so sure?

[Harland]

I never said he wasn't a good player though (clearly he is) and as far as being worth the money, in this scenario he's worth what Liverpool deem him to be worth as he's got a contract which has gone a while to run and Liverpool don't want to sell, so in that sense he's worth 50 million.

Do I think he's actually worth spending 50 million on though, no, I don't think he's that good that he's worth the 50 million, that kind of money for me is the sort of money we should pay someone who is special and for someone who has marketability (as mentioned before someone like Neymar is much more marketable).

So yes I think he's very good (he scored a lot of goals last season) but I do think based on one season and his disciplinary record that kind of money is more than we should be paying as the team needs far more than one player. The other thing is and what you guys seem to ignore, it's all very good right now when he's kicking up a fuss at another club, but come a year or two he'll do the same to us and he'll get himself banned again as well, he's a troublemaker....and whilst he appeals now when we get screwed over it won't feel so good.

Incidentally I do think we need a striker to finish off the chances and I stand by the point I made, however if we signed him whilst he would improve the team it wouldn't be a magic recipe for success, he's suspended for 6 games and one player isn't going to solve our problems, the level of the team needs raising across the board. As mentioned before this would be returning us to a level when we had RVP and whilst he scored lots of goals we never won anything then either because we lacked quality in other areas.

You need to smoke some of that good stuff as well...

If Suarez comes and noone else, that's still not a good summer but damn it, Suarez is a very good start.

Whilst he is not as clinical as people here think he is, his ability to draw defenders and create chances gives him a whole new dimension to what a player like Higuain will bring to us.

Having said all that, Wenger will probably play him as a DM.

[Harland]

BR's response to Suarez's most recent interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X811wlXW_C8#at=156