Luis Suarez thread

[Niall_Quinn]

He'll slap in a transfer request and we'll accept it. Any talk of legal wrangles and clauses and pwomises will be moot. And we'll hope to god Rafa comes flying in with a bid.

This is a possibility (probability) a lot of people seem to be overlooking. Once Arsenal has done the legwork and opened up the deal there's nothing to say another club won't sweep in and finish things off. I hope they at least say thanks. CL footie and £40,000,001.01 should do the trick because we won't go higher. Wouldn't surprise me if our extra pound is payable in instalments. This deal hasn't started yet but some are looking on it as done. Could end up being the dirtiest transfer to date. Could get even dirtier as both clubs may find themselves fighting for a striker if Suarez pisses off elsewhere.

I also have these horrible visions of you getting one over on us and displaying your total lack of class by selling us Downing, but that's worst case scenario.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

He's gone.

But I still can't see this clause turning out to be what he says. As I said last night whilst punching the wall, if Suarez and his agent were really sure they held the trump card they wouldn't have to resort to a ridiculous wishy-washy press statement. They'd have called the lawyers in and got this sorted within days; it's been weeks. These people are complete tossers, all this talk of not wanting to bring in the courts out of respect or whatever it is is just flagrant BS. It's the age old ploy, release a statement and try to force us in a corner. If they knew they had us by the short and curlies they'd be silent and would have already brought in the lawyers and made their case, it sounds far more likely right now that his agent has screwed up and is trying every trick to dig himself out of the hole, changing the terms of this apparent clause and then distracting everyone with talk of pwomises.
The threat of Gordon Taylor, Clark Carlisle and their Merry Men is horrendously weak. And in any case, if they did have their backing, the PFA would have most likely released their own statement to that regard and would have notified the club of their position. [With the caveat that if we have messed up, then the owners will face hell]

I'm not sure the fans would even be that bothered if we sold him now either, and lets face it that's the main reason they've been so publicly staunch in their position. Now he's burnt his bridges, we'll see that as much as an offence against them as much as the club.

Either way, he'll be sold before it even gets close to anything like that. If we have screwed up, we won't want it coming out that we've acted like idiots, and the same for Suarez and his cronies. And it'd cost a bomb and likely take time to sort out, surely too long to complete before the end of the window.

i think you're right. you want this over asap now.

why hold onto a player who has sulked in pre-season and put in half-arsed shifts during the friendlies? you'd take the £40m and invest it wisely under your new recruitment system, which may i add, seems to be much better than the old regime. while fans will bemoan the fact you sold a star player to a 'rival', it is a completely different situation to us and RVP last year. we never really invested the money properly; we should have bought another striker and a DM. we had the money to do it but we penny pinched and pissed around again. your situation is completely different because you have a culture of spending, you will invest every penny of that in 2-3 top players which will help you push even further. therefore i dont think it'll be much of a problem for you.

as i say, it's in your interests to sell asap after that statement. you cant let this affect your season (although it looks like it already will, so it's damage limitation). get that money in and spend it over the next few weeks. then hope for the best.

[LDG]

I think most likely is the clause can be interpreted in different ways. Each party will think it's in their favour. Lawyers would want to drag it out for months or even years to prolong their gravy train.

Sounds to me like Rodgers and Liverpool's chairman did the old 'Levy Gentleman's Agreement' trick and verbally told Suarez he could leave for £40m to a Champs Lge club. Players should record all conversations when negotiating a contract. Levy got another year out of Modric after giving his word he could leave and he's now doing the same with Bale and making sure he gets mega money for him. I know players are stupid but you'd think their advisors wouldn't fall for the oldest trick in the book.

Ironically, Levy could be doing us a favour at the moment.

While he's holding out on Madrid for Bale, they won't enter the market for Suarez.

[selassie]

Yeah I just can't see Suarez joining us. Surely Liverpool would take £30m from a foreign club rather than £40m from us?? They'd still be making a healthy profit and it saves an embarrassing u-turn for them.

One last thing on the clause - it's utter bullshit. Do you really think the clause was ever intended to be "If a club bids £40m we'll tell you about it" I mean seriously?? No way was that ever supposed to be the clause. Liverpool may have worded it like that and pulled a fast one, and well done to them if they did. But to me that is much more classless than anything we've done in this transfer saga.

I think Liverpool have lacked class in all of this TBH. Mouthing off and puffing out their chests throughout the saga. I agree re: the wording of the contract, Suarez and his agent have been massively shafted, saying that...they approved the contract so they have to live with it.

We appear to have behaved and done everything within the rules in regards to pursuing Suarez, though I think the one penny above 40million offer really hasn't helped. It was amusing sure...but if we are serious about the player it wasn't the wisest thing to do.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Yeah, somehow I don't see you guys rolling over for us and selling HIM for 40million.

Your owner & manager have both had a dig at us and your captain has pretty much stated that it would be crazy to sell Suarez to us.

I think you guys will stand your ground with this one irrespective of what Suarez says or wants.

I like Suarez as a player and would like him here, we are absolutely desperate for a quality centre forward but this one is going to end in tears for Arsenal IMHO.

i think £45m will do the trick. taking it to court is nonsense; suarez will probably stop playing during the trial which hurts liverpool's chances of getting into top 4, and courts takes months to sort out.

they wont sell for £40m.

they'll sell for £45m + maybe a few add ons.

just make the bloody bid wenger and get it over with. for the sake of a few million quid it really isnt worth the hassle + potentially losing the player to another team.

[Grebbo]

Phil Thompson just on SSN saying he thinks this is all agent driven



Yeah cos no way would the player actually want to leave Liverpool. They really are a strange bunch of players, ex players and supporters.

We have the opposite problem, our former players constantly say we're shit and that top players shouldn't join us.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ironically, Levy could be doing us a favour at the moment.

While he's holding out on Madrid for Bale, they won't enter the market for Suarez.

The real craziness happens in the last week or even the last few hours of the last day. Lots of potential game changers still lurking out there, like Ronaldo back to Utd. That would kill us.

[Grebbo]

We appear to have behaved and done everything within the rules in regards to pursuing Suarez, though I think the one penny above 40million offer really hasn't helped. It was amusing sure...but if we are serious about the player it wasn't the wisest thing to do.

Pound mate not a penny. Makes a big difference.

[Niall_Quinn]

i think £45m will do the trick. taking it to court is nonsense; suarez will probably stop playing during the trial which hurts liverpool's chances of getting into top 4, and courts takes months to sort out.

they wont sell for £40m.

they'll sell for £45m + maybe a few add ons.

just make the bloody bid wenger and get it over with. for the sake of a few million quid it really isnt worth the hassle + potentially losing the player to another team.

Hopefully it wouldn't be a trial! I know we're morphing into a police state but this would be too much. More chance of Wenger reducing the offer than upping it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Pound mate not a penny. Makes a big difference.

The pound is over 100 years, so technically a penny in year #1