Luis Suarez thread

[Özim]

I can't remember what you said last year so genuine question this. Is that what you wanted us to do with rvp? Stick him in the reserves to show him whose boss?

You keep comparing those but that is completely different.

1) RVP had been with us 8 years
2) His contract was running down
3) He was almost 29 and really looking at his final chance of silverware (wasn't going to get any with us)
4) He didn't make up sh*t in the press
5) He didn't get himself into trouble left right and centre

I can understand RVP, he'd been with us a long time and we were never going to win anything, what was he going to do stay with us and continue to win nothing and have nothing to show for his career, he was 29 he didn't exactly have that long to win anything. Suarez is very different, his behaviour has been appalling on and off the pitch throughout his career and the way he's treating Liverpool after the sh*t the defended him over makes it worse, especially as he's only been there a couple years...he's 26 he has plenty of time left to move on, the fact he's trying to force a move based on a false clause makes it even worse....as does threatening Liverpool.

He's a scumbag, he did the same to Groningen and lost but Ajax upped their bid and he moved...he's got history of this.

[Özim]

Come on - the guy can't play until October anyway.

True but what else can they do, give in to this guy and let another player walkover everyone because he feels like it?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Yeah but look at what Suarez has (allegedly) said. Rodgers has thrown his toys, talking about disrespecting the club etc. It's like he's apologising to the fans in advance or just having a strop. With modern players who is surprised when they disrespect the club? They disrespect the whole of football as a matter of course. If the manager wants to jump up and down every time it happens then he's going to get puffed out and look foolish. Wenger did the same before the Lesbo and Cesc exits. Rodgers is looking out of his depth here, not David Moyes out of his depth but he's still on the tail end of the debate reacting rather than appearing to be in control.

Well he directly accused Rodgers and the club of lying. If that isn't true then he has to come out and put it to bed- had he been ambiguous in what he said (which would be ironic) then it wouldn't look good on his part. And it wouldn't look good to current players or potential new signings either, that accusations like that weren't categorically dismissed. In that sense he has disrespected the club and everyone associated with it, more than normal.

We probably won't keep him, and our stance may look foolish, but that doesn't mean we should capitulate and let him have free reign of what comes out in the press either. Especially if it turns out to be utter crap, which so far it has done. Repeatedly.

[tjmill]

I still think we will sign Suarez he clearly wants to come and we are not too far apart on price with Liverpool.
He is one of the best strikers in Premier League so will finally be RVP's replacement.

[Özim]

Rodgers reckons we're a long way from the price they would be willing to accept.

[Kano]

I dunno, sticking him in the reserves to rot is showing him who's in charge, hope the f*cker stays there and missed gets his come uppance by missing out on the World Cup (they have Forlan and Cavani after all).

This guy isn't the average footballer, his behaviour really is despicable, just look at how he's screwed over his clubs and got himself involved in all sorts of incidents.

I mean what are Liverpool suppose to do with this muppet, let him say and do whatever he likes?

yep, because that's how it works. we can be idealistic and say 'throw him into the reserves' but in another 6 months, he'll still get what he wants, with no lesson learnt at all as the same trick will be pulled at his next club.

the bosman ruling changed it all and theres no going back. before, the clubs could screw over the players which only harmed the players and their loved ones. now it feels far more personal because its the players who are in control and have ruined this illusion we had that loyalty actually existed before the ruling change. in fact, in never did. it was just the players didnt have the autonomy to do as they are now.

suarez is just a heightened version of how low people will go to do as they please and get what they want if given the chance.

[Munchies]

Paul Merson tips Man City for title - or Arsenal if they get Suarez
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/tv-s...hey-get-suarez

This may sound stupid because people will say this isn't a surprise, but I'm going to go for Arsenal as the surprise package this year. People will say they're always a top-four team, which is true, but they've not been close to winning the league for a long, long time. If they can get Suarez I really do believe they can win the Premier League. However, if they don't get him then I don't give them a chance of winning the league. He's the difference, along with Jack Wilshere playing every week. I also don't see Aston Villa being where they were last season and I think they could surprise a few people

Yeah right

[Niall_Quinn]

Well he directly accused Rodgers and the club of lying. If that isn't true then he has to come out and put it to bed- had he been ambiguous in what he said (which would be ironic) then it wouldn't look good on his part. And it wouldn't look good to current players or potential new signings either, that accusations like that weren't categorically dismissed. In that sense he has disrespected the club and everyone associated with it, more than normal.

We probably won't keep him, and our stance may look foolish, but that doesn't mean we should capitulate and let him have free reign of what comes out in the press either. Especially if it turns out to be utter crap, which so far it has done. Repeatedly.

I think the media has helpfully added the word "lying", haven't they? Is this a public he said/ she said competition, Suarez wins if that's the case because it's all brought down to that level. Suarez is already acting the dick but there's no glory in being a slightly smaller dick by comparison.

[Nayan]

we dont have a problem scoring goals and should be strenghtening other areas. on top of suarez being massively overpriced and a wanker who moves every other year.
plus a cannibal racist

[Özim]

yep, because that's how it works. we can be idealistic and say 'throw him into the reserves' but in another 6 months, he'll still get what he wants, with no lesson learnt at all as the same trick will be pulled at his next club.

the bosman ruling changed it all and theres no going back. before, the clubs could screw over the players which only harmed the players and their loved ones. now it feels far more personal because its the players who are in control and have ruined this illusion we had that loyalty actually existed before the ruling change. in fact, in never did. it was just the players didnt have the autonomy to do as they are now.

suarez is just a heightened version of how low people will go to do as they please and get what they want if given the chance.

Maybe but then Man City did it successfully with Tevez, he kicked up a fuss and they just told him to lump it, eventually he came back with his tail between his legs and apologised and played, I know they have a lot of money but it can be done, they could certainly fine him as well in all probability.

I agree clubs use to have the control however players still had a say, if they didn't want to move they could turn down the move. I guess clubs can have their say now of course but players like him make it hard.

Maybe but I'd say Suarez is a prime example of what's bad in the game today, he's certainly amongst the most disloyal players and one of the biggest troublemakers. Like I said though if Liverpool took a hardline stance and he missed out on the World Cup that would be karma.