quick blow to the back of the head from Mr Spade
quick blow to the back of the head from Mr Spade
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport...ml?CMP=OTC-RSSFormer Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein believes Arsene Wenger could consider his future if he does not receive the backing of the fans.
With captain Cesc Fabregas having departed for Barcelona and Samir Nasri set to complete a move to Manchester City in the near future, Dein says Wenger is "undoubtedly" facing the toughest spell of his time at Arsenal.
There is a growing mood of discontent among many supporters over the failure to sign up replacements, but Dein believes the fans need to get behind their manager.
He told BBC Sport: "That's always an option open to him because it could come to a stage when he will say, 'Well, I have had enough'. At least that's how I feel and I feel the fans should feel that. They should at least give him the respect that he deserves for what he's done.
"People talk about 'Has his time finished at the club?' That's a very dangerous thing to say because it's easy to get rid of people and then what? People talk about buying players. Well, you've got to get players who are better than the ones you've got at the moment."
Dein says he can sympathise with fans' frustrations over the lack of silverware in recent times but maintains Wenger is capable of ending the drought.
"I can understand their worry because the expectation level today is so high and Arsene has brought such success to the club," Dein said. "In 15 years that he's been there, every year we've been in the Champions League, so you can understand, perhaps, fans feeling a little bit frustrated that they haven't seen a trophy for a few years.
"Under Arsene Wenger's stewardship, they've had good times and very good times and there's no reason to expect why we shouldn't see them again."
He added: "Obviously I know him very well, he's a neighbour of mine. I've never seen a man in football more focused, more determined, with more drive than him."
Time for the fans to man up and make a difference
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Why are we as fans always treated with such contempt?Former Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein has told BBC Sport that Arsenal fans must give manager Arsene Wenger the respect he deserves or risk losing him.
The manager has come under increasing criticism from supporters after six seasons without a trophy and the departure of Cesc Fabregas.
When asked if Wenger could leave, Dein said: "That's always an option open to him because it could come to a stage when he will say, 'Well, I have had enough.'
"At least that's how I feel and I feel the fans should feel that. They should at least give him the respect that he deserves for what he's done."
Dein, the driving force behind Wenger's appointment in 1996, told BBC Sport: "People talk about 'Has his time finished at the club?'
"That's a very dangerous thing to say because it's easy to get rid of people and then what? People talk about buying players. Well, you've got to get players who are better than the ones you've got at the moment."
Dein, who left Arsenal in 2007, is still good friends with Wenger, but did say that he sympathises with Arsenal's fans.
"I can understand their worry because the expectation level today is so high and Arsene has brought such success to the club," said Dein.
"In 15 years that he's been there every year we've been in the Champions League. So you can understand, perhaps, fans feeling a little bit frustrated that they haven't seen a trophy for a few years.
"Under Arsene Wenger's stewardship, they've had good times and very good times and there's no reason to expect why we shouldn't see them again."
The departure of Fabregas, and possibly Sami Nasri in the days to come, has left Wenger under pressure and Dein believes the Frenchman is enduring the toughest period of his 15 years with Arsenal.
"Undoubtedly, on several counts," said Dein.
"One, the game's got more competitive. Players are not as loyal as they used to be. Gone are the days where we'll see testimonials where players will stay at a club for 10 years - you know, with Tony Adams, Martin Keown, Lee Dixon, Ray Parlour, Dennis Bergkamp.
"You're not going to see that any more because players will be tempted to move and that is modern football. In a way, the players moving on is always a problem for a manager.
"And last season was particularly difficult because they were nearly there. At one stage, a few months before the end of the season, competing on four fronts and in the end coming away trophyless is difficult, perhaps, to accept."
Despite the current difficulties, Dein insists that the man he brought to English football retains a burning desire to win more trophies with Arsenal.
"Obviously I know him very well, he's a neighbour of mine," said Dein. "I've never seen a man in football more focused, more determined, with more drive than him."
Watch the full interview with David Dein on Football Focus at 1215 BST on Saturday, 20 August
Weve been backing wenger for the last 15 years, its time some of that was re-payed ffs.
Sick of everyone telling us that we're in the wrong tbh.
It's hardly been 13 years with no success at all.
But patience is wearing thin now, this summer has been a sodding disaster.
I've no bloody idea what's going on at the club right now.
Wenger made Dein £75MILLION.Originally Posted by Save me Jeebus!
I'd be sucking his dick too if he'd made me that kind of money.
The guy completely misunderstands fans, it's incredible how detached he is. Of course if you have been the beneficiary of the money that comes from the CL you will see mere participation as a reward in itself. But why are the fans who pump the money in expected to be satisfied when we consistently fail to achieve any of the genuine goals of participation in these competitions? We don't say sack the manager because we haven't won the CL but neither should we celebrate because we have failed to win. What's in this routine failure for us? Nothing. Not even entertaining football any more. So why the demands we wave our scarves and chant, "4th in the league, we are, we are, 4th in the league"?In 15 years that he's been there every year we've been in the Champions League. So you can understand, perhaps, fans feeling a little bit frustrated that they haven't seen a trophy for a few years.
He speaks as if he's averse to this downturn, but he's one of the pricks who has made football what it is today. Tell him he can hand back all the money he's made from the bastardisation of football and see what'll he'll do."One, the game's got more competitive. Players are not as loyal as they used to be. Gone are the days where we'll see testimonials where players will stay at a club for 10 years - you know, with Tony Adams, Martin Keown, Lee Dixon, Ray Parlour, Dennis Bergkamp.
"You're not going to see that any more because players will be tempted to move and that is modern football. In a way, the players moving on is always a problem for a manager.
He's delusional. "Nearly there", he says. Like the rookie trying to land an airliner who nearly didn't kill all the passengers. So close! Last year was a disgrace, how can anyone try to put any sort of positive slant on it? Yes indeed, last year was "perhaps" difficult to accept. But not nearly has hard as this year, what with the club failing to correct any of the problems that left us short last season. Why do you say we are "nearly" somewhere when the next thing you do is turn 180 degrees and start walking further away from the goal."And last season was particularly difficult because they were nearly there. At one stage, a few months before the end of the season, competing on four fronts and in the end coming away trophyless is difficult, perhaps, to accept."
This guy, like so many in football now, is a politician. He won't connect the dots because to do so would give a true picture. Instead he focuses on issues in isolation and spins them for all he's worth.
Short version, he's a cunt.
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yet people think having Dein back here would make a diffrence.
Might as well have him back, kettle all the cunts in one place, do the world a favour and at least then we'd win the martyr cup.
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Wenger basically needs to be fired for his good and sanity. I kinda feel sorry for the guy, it's like watching a once great boxer at the tail end of their career.
From john cross twitter. Seems like AW could be feeling the strainWenger says Dein wrong to suggest he may walk away, reaffirms loyalty. Says he's friends with DD but won't say if spoken about return
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