On the plus side, we've cleared out a lot of deadwood. On the minus side, we've got 11 goals we've got to replace. (7 gervinho, 2 chamakh, 1 miquel and 1 arshavin) With a combined 78 appearances (from the full list of people sold or on loan). What's the point of clearing out deadwood only to panic by again on the last day of the season.
Last edited by AKBapologist; 12-08-2013 at 10:21 PM.
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11 goals to replace? Two of those came against Reading in the 5-7! Arshavin only scored in one of the cup games too.
What's your point? Would you rather we have been knocked out of the cups earlier? Or that the 5 league goals scored by gervinho were surplus to requirements in the year that saw us finish above spurs only in the last match of the season? (again)
My point is that we couldn't afford it last season, what makes this season any different?
My point is this is a way of looking at it that doesn't make much sense. Where would the goals come from without RVP was asked. Now we're doing the same thing again. I'm banking on the fact we won't need 7 goals to win a match next time in a Cup or if we do someone else, someone that is in all likelihood better than Chamakh will step up.
In a Wenger system chances will always be created for most players on the pitch. To talk about 'replacing goals' is to assume the matches will go in exactly the same way. Gervinho scored against Chelsea, where we lost, he scored against Swansea but we were already leading. Arshavin scored in a 6-1 win against Coventry when we already had a lead.
I know you are in 'meltdown' but really, as I say, this is not exactly thinking things through.
I'm just quantifying the wisdom of selling a bunch of players (regardless of how bad) without replacing them. You could argue that there goals were meaningless (I disagree, especially considering games vs swansea, montpellier and reading) but the weight of numbers in appearances meant that other more productive team members could be kept fresher. (unless they were already injured).
Either way, we're relying on reserves like no team in the top 6 is even close to, are you banking on project youth to fill in the extra goals or for giroud to be a 30 goal a season striker?
And another point, A wenger system that relies on goals from midfield doesn't work in big games. Hence our atrocious record against teams in the top 6. Even wenger knows it's dumb, hence the flapping around for a top striker.
Last edited by AKBapologist; 12-08-2013 at 11:21 PM.
I'm not arguing they were meaningless goals, they scored those goals, so it can't be meaningless but the meaning ends when a new season begins.
By your thinking, before the transfer window ends we don't have any goals to replace as those players didn't score in either of the league games that occur before it, nor those two games that immediately follow it. You don't need a 30 goal a season striker to achieve what our basic aim probably is.
If Wenger is trying to buy a top striker for goals in the big games, then why does it matter he hasn't replaced goals from players that didn't score in the big games?
I can see how people might be thinking Wenger is pushing it a little bit but not so much that it should induce meltdown.
The point about wenger ball and top strikers isn't exactly connected to the point about the deadweight going. The point about the deadweight going is more a question about their contribution to the team last season, in goals, assists, and appearances. That we're WEAKER now, with them gone, and unreplaced than with them here, and able to fill in when our top scorer inevitably get's injured during internationals.
And just another point, we didn't replace RVP's goals with goals from midfield, we signed 2 strikers, who scored (a little less) than RVP did last season combined. Yes, Carzola scored an impressive number of goals last season, and you could hope the team scores more (if walcott scored more goals per minute than he did (already better than bale), even some of the waltnut tosspots might have to come round to the notion he might be world class) - but I'm not willing to bet a penny on that with so fewer players left to rotate with tbh.
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