Luiz Gustavo Thread

[Ollie the Optimist]

The old "we're a better team than last season" b*llocks is here again, funny how it's never proven to be true...we know they have "1 extra year of experience" etc etc but it's never worked out and I fail to see how getting rid of players can make you better (even if a number of them didn't feature).

As for Sanogogo, begin as you mean to continue....

the first team and the bench are all good players, and they will be better players next year because they had a season together. this is the first time that no big player has left us, sadly no big player has joined us either. of all the players we have got rid of, only gervinho is one that would play in the first team. so i can understand to a slight degree people saying we are stronger without then, its true to an extent, they dont play, they are out the door, money saved on wages etc etc

but while the players might be better, have better understandings of each others play etc and will be a better team next season as they keep growing. we are utterly fucked if one of them gets injured, because the player on the bench comes on to replace them and then we have no one. its a coplete fuck up this summer, and it is unforgivable that the first game of the season is days away and we havnt spent any fucking money.

[selassie]

He's French, not German.

I've never been very good at impersonations but you get the point!

[Özim]

the first team and the bench are all good players, and they will be better players next year because they had a season together. this is the first time that no big player has left us, sadly no big player has joined us either. of all the players we have got rid of, only gervinho is one that would play in the first team. so i can understand to a slight degree people saying we are stronger without then, its true to an extent, they dont play, they are out the door, money saved on wages etc etc

but while the players might be better, have better understandings of each others play etc and will be a better team next season as they keep growing. we are utterly fucked if one of them gets injured, because the player on the bench comes on to replace them and then we have no one. its a coplete fuck up this summer, and it is unforgivable that the first game of the season is days away and we havnt spent any fucking money.

We've heard it all before to be honest, I don't think you'll see much difference because the fundamental problem is the lack of overall quality. Yes sure intelligent, quality players will become a better team as they get to know each others game etc but most of these guys aren't that good and let's face it many will be injured for large parts of the season anyway.

This is basically one of Wenger's excuses for not signing players, we were nowhere near last season and won't be anywhere near this season either as it stands because ultimately we need better players in different positions to raise the level of the team, trouble is the club don't seem overly concerned about this.

[Letters]

Strangely we got more points last season than the season before, but looked worse.


I think we will potentially be a bit better this year, combination of players bedding in more and younger players improving, but we needed some major signings to really push us on and, as always, we haven't got them.

[selassie]

Strangely we got more points last season than the season before, but looked worse.


I think we will potentially be a bit better this year, combination of players bedding in more and younger players improving, but we needed some major signings to really push us on and, as always, we haven't got them.

We may well improve last seasons points tally again, but IMHO, as it stands I don't think we'll finish anywhere near Man U, City or Chelsea. I'm at a complete loss to what Arsene is doing, it's almost like he's got this obsession with taking gambles, every season I feel we go into the season with a squad that is just lacking, this season the squad lacks quality and depth, I don't particularly even rate the First XI. Our First XI for many years has been our get out of jail card, now it isn't IMHO...it's just a shambles. If we pick up a couple of injuries we really are going to be in Deep shit, why does Arsene does this? I just don't get it....

[StamfordBrdige]

the first team and the bench are all good players, and they will be better players next year because they had a season together. this is the first time that no big player has left us, sadly no big player has joined us either. of all the players we have got rid of, only gervinho is one that would play in the first team. so i can understand to a slight degree people saying we are stronger without then, its true to an extent, they dont play, they are out the door, money saved on wages etc etc

but while the players might be better, have better understandings of each others play etc and will be a better team next season as they keep growing. we are utterly fucked if one of them gets injured, because the player on the bench comes on to replace them and then we have no one. its a coplete fuck up this summer, and it is unforgivable that the first game of the season is days away and we havnt spent any fucking money.

The idea that teams automatically get better cos of one more year is not at all true. It's certainly not true by default. If that were the case Wigan would still be in the PL as they would have gotten better by default over the years and should have moved up the table gradually. They didn't.

Even if it were true, then everything stays the same because the other teams in the top 4 would also get better due to being together one more year.

As of right now on the dawn of a new season, your team is weaker than it was as at the end of last season. Unless you have a bunch of youngsters ready to step up like the Manutd & Ajax kids of the 90s, your team is weaker.

[Power n Glory]

We were lucky not to pick up many injuries last year and Wenger pushed players like Santi to the limit. We better hope the medical have their act together this year.

[GP]

If that were the case Wigan would still be in the PL as they would have gotten better by default over the years and should have moved up the table gradually. They didn't.

Only if their rate of improvement was greater than the other teams around them. And they won the cup.

Your argument is invalid.

[StamfordBrdige]

Only if their rate of improvement was greater than the other teams around them. And they won the cup.

Your argument is invalid.

So arsenal's rate of improvement will be much greater than those of the teams around them because...

[Letters]

You don't get better by default but if you have a fairly young side which is stable (i.e. not losing key players) then you should expect some improvement the following season.