Luiz Gustavo Thread

[Özim]

out of the current lot, wilshere, ramsey, jenkinson, ox, gibbs just keep on improving. while we have had a young side, the current youngsters are getting better and are first team players, rather then kids in the first team if that make sense. we have some new youngsters like akpom, zelalem, eisfield who might be the next big thing, but with fuck all else to choose from given we have not got decent squad depth, they are likely to play a lot more then they should be next season, with too much pressure on them

Wilshere is injury prone at the moment though, Ramsey there are questions marks over his quality, Jenkinson is a decent player, Ox Chamberlain stagnated last season and Gibbs well he's always injured, it would be easier to count the games he has played than the games he's missed.

I think younger players are more prone to confidence dips which can really affect their progress and that's why having more experienced players around them and being able to take them out of the line of fire when playing poorly helps. We just don't have the players though and as you said they'll end up playing a lot more than they should, perhaps burning them out.

I really think we make it hard for ourselves.

[Özim]

Also looking at it Coquelin feature in 22 games last season, so we've lost that as well.

[Power n Glory]

out of the current lot, wilshere, ramsey, jenkinson, ox, gibbs just keep on improving. while we have had a young side, the current youngsters are getting better and are first team players, rather then kids in the first team if that make sense. we have some new youngsters like akpom, zelalem, eisfield who might be the next big thing, but with fuck all else to choose from given we have not got decent squad depth, they are likely to play a lot more then they should be next season, with too much pressure on them

Wilshere has been a regular in our squad for two seasons. We have to hope he gets back to the level he was before being injured before talking about improvement. It’s the same for Ramsey. He’s only just showing signs of improvement and this season will prove whether we’re talking good form or true development. Ox hasn’t improved at all. Gibbs has but I’m not so sure of Jenkinkson.

[Letters]

Gibbs played 27 times last year (thanks, Wiki!). It's not that bad, not Diaby bad.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Wilshere is injury prone at the moment though, Ramsey there are questions marks over his quality, Jenkinson is a decent player, Ox Chamberlain stagnated last season and Gibbs well he's always injured, it would be easier to count the games he has played than the games he's missed.

I think younger players are more prone to confidence dips which can really affect their progress and that's why having more experienced players around them and being able to take them out of the line of fire when playing poorly helps. We just don't have the players though and as you said they'll end up playing a lot more than they should, perhaps burning them out.

I really think we make it hard for ourselves.

hpefully Jack can stay fit, if he does, he will be a world class player. i rate Ramsey, think he will be a good player, this sides ray parlour if you like. i think the Ox will improve, he had a good first season and think a lot was expected last year, proves my point, with no new signings etc a lot is expected of them, so the Ox was expected to score lots of goals etc because he had no one to learn from, he was ok last season, not great but ok yet its seen as a bad season because he was having to step up rather then be able to learn his game as youngsters should be able too.

there is no defending the club anymore, 4 days and no signings. all those promises and we have been lied to again. 4 days from the start of the season and we just about have enough players to fill the bench. unforgivable

[Özim]

Gibbs played 27 times last year (thanks, Wiki!). It's not that bad, not Diaby bad.

Weren't about 24 of those games where he hobbled off after about 3 minutes?

[Ollie the Optimist]

Weren't about 24 of those games where he hobbled off after about 3 minutes?

not last season. most games he played, he last 90 minutes. he hasnt got the best injury record, but last season he improved it.

[Power n Glory]

Also looking at it Coquelin feature in 22 games last season, so we've lost that as well.

He was starting to look good. Along with Giggs, he was the best of the young players to push on. Silly to loan him out but I guess he wanted more playing time.

[Özim]

He was starting to look good. Along with Giggs, he was the best of the young players to push on. Silly to loan him out but I guess he wanted more playing time.

Giggs? Don't think he's that young anymore, young at heart maybe but...

[Power n Glory]

Gibbs