The Ashes 2013.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Even forgetting the luck England have had with rain falling when the Aussies were about to win the l
3rd test, any half decent team could take Australia comfortably right now. This 3-0 score line or whatever is the equivalent of boasting about beating Doncaster in football. The Aussie team is full of twenty20 retards that and shit bowlers. It's no achievement to win.

so without rain, they would have still lost 3-1. anyway the ashes to me isnt like a normal test series, its a derby. Its the one series all the players who play for england and austrailia want to win more then any other. therefore form goes out of the window to a certain extent. like a football derby, form is irrelevant because everyone raises their game.

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so without rain, they would have still lost 3-1. anyway the ashes to me isnt like a normal test series, its a derby. Its the one series all the players who play for england and austrailia want to win more then any other. therefore form goes out of the window to a certain extent. like a football derby, form is irrelevant because everyone raises their game.

Even if it is like a derby, shit players will play shit. Australia are terrible. On the evidence of play you can't seriously think this has been a series of any good quality - the standard has been poor. There is only one top team at the moment by a massive distance and that's South Africa. To play South Africa and compete well - that's the only way to prove you're a good team right now.

If some of these Ashes test matches (e.g. the last one and one before) seemed a little close, that is a little worrying for England. A couple of years ago, England's top 3 in the first innings kept laying the platform which got them to the top; '200-1' type starts which they would then go on to convert. Now with a lot of key players getting on a bit, we will see a decline quickly unless they find some young players that can quickly become prolific scorers. Seen it happen recently with a lot of countries.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Think Cook and Trott are bad... some England woman player took 304 balls to reach 55

Boycs immediately proposed.

[Cripps_orig]

Bresnan out for the rest of the summer

Who comes in?

[Ollie the Optimist]

Bresnan out for the rest of the summer

Who comes in?

Tremlett. No brainer

[Cripps_orig]

I'd rather they go for someone in form

[LDG]

Bring Harmy out of retirement

EDIT: didn't know he was still playing county

[Ollie the Optimist]

I'd rather they go for someone in form

and who would that be then?

[Ollie the Optimist]

Bring Harmy out of retirement

EDIT: didn't know he was still playing county

he is? thought he retired ages ago

[Cripps_orig]

and who would that be then?

Well from the contenders, it's onions by a mile