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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    If he spends heavily and fails we're out of excuses. Or more pertinently, he's out of excuses.
    I've never been one of those spend big money fans. It just baffles me how they've just failed to address obvious weaknesses, and just add a bit off quality to the team. Which doesn't require spending silly.

    And what frustrates me so much, is that, there are no truly great teams in football, and as above average as we are. A couple of quality additions will get us right back in the mix.

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    It is not 'crisis'. Crisis would mean something akin to examples put forward above. A crisis would at least be exciting to live through - albeit for the wrong reasons. What we have now is more akin to 'nothingness'. The futility of it all is excasperating. On this Board we have pretty much called how every season will pan out for at least 4 years now.

    If only we'd put our money where our mouths were at the bookies, we'd probably be able to lead a fan buyout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobson's choice View Post
    I've never been one of those spend big money fans. It just baffles me how they've just failed to address obvious weaknesses, and just add a bit off quality to the team. Which doesn't require spending silly.

    And what frustrates me so much, is that, there are no truly great teams in football, and as above average as we are. A couple of quality additions will get us right back in the mix.
    I agree that if we were spending like chelsea and man city i'd be just as disillusioned with football as i am now.....but the rot has spread so far throughout Arsenal that it would take that kind of money to set us right. And it's not even just in the first team, it's an open secret that our youth system is a complete mess and the quality of players just aren't coming in so we can't even develop young players as an alternative to mass purchasing.
    To be honest our strongest first XI is just about good enough to make top four but the fact that it is is a shocking indictment of English football in general, the best league in the world?....absolute joke....especially when you look at our national side which is the quintessence of ordinary.
    For me not only do we need to buy we need to sell, stop persisting with average players and players that are forever injured....how many games do you think we will get out of Rosicky and Diaby this season.....these are both players i like and would have loved to have seen them do better with their Arsenal careers it's unfortunate but you have to be ruthless.
    Per Mertesacker for me is a very good defender but try as he might he cannot come to grips with the pace of the english league and to be honest most clubs in Italy would snap your hand off for him as he is an accomplished international.
    I am going to keep my counsel about a certain Welshman because i think it goes without saying what i think about him.
    Not that by the way City, United and Chelsea don't have a lot of players that stink up the place like a carton which contained a kebab and only the stringy brown lettuce and bits of day old pitta bread remain.....but that's their problem not ours....i hate the thought of any player playing for our club who just isn't good enough or likely to play enough games.

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    Yeah, not so much of a crisis as just stagnation; an unwillingness from the powers that be to attempt to change the status quo by strengthening positions which could promote us to actually have a shot of competing for the Premiership title rather than just being happy to play out the numbers simply because 4th place comes with its own financial reward. Adding to that the eagerness of our club to charge some of the highest prices in the land, with none of that invested back in strengthening the squad. It's all a bit of a piss take really. But by no means a crisis.

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    Not crisis, just a vicous cycle. What have us Arsenals fans done to deserve this punishment?! Honestly it borders on torture.

    Sad thing is we are now getting linked to some top quality players but we all know full well for a number of different reasons that we will end up with essentially players that nobody really wants.

    Of course the current first team isn't bad, it's not a shoe-in for 4th but it is capable of a 4th place finish. Same as it ever was.

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    Really?



    How are we not in crisis?

    Bumbling from one catastrophe to another? With no were near enough senior players for a match day 18.

    And really? Tempting fate a bit with this thread? Let's at least wait till we're confirmed in the champions league before suggesting finishing above spurs and not playing on Thursday's being the height of our expectations is not actually that bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Really?



    How are we not in crisis?

    Bumbling from one catastrophe to another? With no were near enough senior players for a match day 18.

    And really? Tempting fate a bit with this thread? Let's at least wait till we're confirmed in the champions league before suggesting finishing above spurs and not playing on Thursday's being the height of our expectations is not actually that bad.

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    The only poster to mention Tottenham other than you was Cibbles and he isn't an Arsenal supporter. Letters said us being top 4 material but that's hardly him going overboard.

    A true crisis in football shoud only be reserved to talk about one of two things, relegation or the club is near liquidation, like Cibbles said. Anything else is worth discussing and debating but talking in terms of crisis just makes me smile for it being such an overreaction.

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    Oh, so the only thing we're allowed to get upset about is relegation or doing a leeds? Give me a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Oh, so the only thing we're allowed to get upset about is relegation or doing a leeds? Give me a break.

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    No, I'm saying calling it a crisis is an exaggeration not that there aren't any problems worth being upset about. All the posters on here that have made clear their grievances aren't calling it a crisis.

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    It's not an exaggeration. Crisis is a imprecise and relative term that clearly means different things for different clubs.

    Having a senior squad this small for a club that charges fans so much for no real reason whatsoever IS something to be upset about. The results of which are already becoming apparent (see red zones, fatigue/stress injures and the injury spiral) with consequences, what ever now happens transfer wise, that will last throughout the season.

    If you want to childishly suggest we can't get pissed of with the same mistakes happening over and over whilst teams around us, continue to pull ahead then that's your prerogative. But it isn't going to change the fact more and more of us no longer have any faith that the club is being run in a transparent and coherent way with the din of under achievement and lack of ambition becoming synonymous with the club.

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