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    seems like most of you cannot accept the fact someone as intelligent as arsene, who once put an invincibles team together, can make mistakes that have put us in the position we are in. almost as if it 'must' be the board restricting his bidding/wage offering/general lack of transfer activity. if so, when did this start? this season when stan got full control of our club? if so, why hasnt wenger walked? he has always said the day he would walk would be the day a higher level individual restricts what he wants to do. if stan came in, changed things around, or someone on the board isnt allowing him to buy players at the wages/price he wants to anymore, wenger would have made it clear and walked. like he always said he would. he has always himself said he has full control of the club hence why he would never go to a team like real madrid.

    if this all started prior to this summer, then why is it being so strictly upheld now, when our team needs experience more than any other time before? we've signed arshavin, vermaelen, nasri etc in the past, all who have been experienced players. why cant wenger go and so the same now? he can find players for £10m and put them on 80k a week. in no way does this break our budget or smash our transfer record fees.

    fact is we arent doing that, instead we are splashing £15m on a league 1 player. did the board advocate that? no, wenger did. so stop acting as if somethings restricting him because to me it looks like there isnt. if anything its probably fiszman and dein not being on the board for the first time in 25 years, and the current lot havent the foggiest on how to run the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    Wenger would not stay if all the various nonsense being spouted above was true.
    All managers would, do you think fergie was happy with Glazer gate why did he stay? Wenger has never been one to critize the ones who pay him especially for the ones who attack him every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    All managers would, do you think fergie was happy with Glazer gate why did he stay? Wenger has never been one to critize the ones who pay him especially for the ones who attack him every day.
    All managers would? Bullshit.

    When was Ferguson restricted? Name one player he wanted to buy but wasn't allowed to by the board? Thanks.

    If you believe press rumours there is only one season he wasn't allowed to spend and that was the season they banked 80M from the Ronaldo sale. However they still got in replacements for those that left and still did reasonably well.

    As said above, these restrictions suddenly appearing seem a very convenient excuse for us trying to bank 50M and not spend on anyone of real quality this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    All managers would? Bullshit.

    When was Ferguson restricted? Name one player he wanted to buy but wasn't allowed to by the board? Thanks.

    If you believe press rumours there is only one season he wasn't allowed to spend and that was the season they banked 80M from the Ronaldo sale. However they still got in replacements for those that left and still did reasonably well.

    As said above, these restrictions suddenly appearing seem a very convenient excuse for us trying to bank 50M and not spend on anyone of real quality this summer.
    Come on now, UTD never had money for the last few season thats why they never spent tbh, But fergir trusted his board and got results thats the diffrence.

    I Can't tell you why we have not spent on qualtty this season and we'd never know till someone speaks out i suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    seems like most of you cannot accept the fact someone as intelligent as arsene, who once put an invincibles team together, can make mistakes that have put us in the position we are in. almost as if it 'must' be the board restricting his bidding/wage offering/general lack of transfer activity. if so, when did this start? this season when stan got full control of our club? if so, why hasnt wenger walked? he has always said the day he would walk would be the day a higher level individual restricts what he wants to do. if stan came in, changed things around, or someone on the board isnt allowing him to buy players at the wages/price he wants to anymore, wenger would have made it clear and walked. like he always said he would. he has always himself said he has full control of the club hence why he would never go to a team like real madrid.

    if this all started prior to this summer, then why is it being so strictly upheld now, when our team needs experience more than any other time before? we've signed arshavin, vermaelen, nasri etc in the past, all who have been experienced players. why cant wenger go and so the same now? he can find players for £10m and put them on 80k a week. in no way does this break our budget or smash our transfer record fees.

    fact is we arent doing that, instead we are splashing £15m on a league 1 player. did the board advocate that? no, wenger did. so stop acting as if somethings restricting him because to me it looks like there isnt. if anything its probably fiszman and dein not being on the board for the first time in 25 years, and the current lot havent the foggiest on how to run the club.
    from what i've been reading on recent pages that isn't the position of people.

    i don't know whether this rumour is true or not, but it's just basic logical sense that a manager would not be in complete control of a multi million pound strategy for a business. Absolutely no way. wenger has to take responsibility for what happens on the pitch and he has had money to spend.

    also, where did he say he would walk if someone else was blocking him doing what he wanted to? he has said he would walk if undermined but that is completely different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    from what i've been reading on recent pages that isn't the position of people.

    i don't know whether this rumour is true or not, but it's just basic logical sense that a manager would not be in complete control of a multi million pound strategy for a business. Absolutely no way. wenger has to take responsibility for what happens on the pitch and he has had money to spend.

    also, where did he say he would walk if someone else was blocking him doing what he wanted to? he has said he would walk if undermined but that is completely different.
    we arent any club. we are arsenal.
    and wenger isnt any manager. he has transformed our club.

    slowly over the years he has gained more control of the club and its dealings, whether on or off the pitch. thats common knowledge. you think wenger has the exact same responsibilities and control now as he had when he first started in 1996? come on man open your eyes.

    as for the 2nd part, we've all read it over the past few years, i cant give you an exact date as to when he said it. around the time madrid came knocking and also when we were constantly linked to being taken over.

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    This is crazy. If you won't believe a word Wenger says about his philosphy on football and transfers then at least look at what he's doing on the pitch. They say judge a man on his actions and not on his word.

    Wenger says he firmly believes in developing young players. This isn't something born out of circumstance, this is his belief.
    If he felt that Denilson was an under par player, he wouldn't give him the time of day. He wouldn't defend his performances and say he's underrated and wouldn't keep picking him game after game even though he keeps making the same mistakes.
    He hasn't bought for key positions because he wants to give them a chance. He's not showing so much faith and confidence in them because he has no choice. Look how he finally gave up on Eboue and bought a right back, a back up right back and shifted him out of the squad.

    The story about the wages and transfers makes no sense either. Before we can talk about wages we have to agree a transfer fee. Clubs are rejecting our bids so how can this all boil down to our wage structure?

    He may have gotten into a spat with the board over the wage structure to keep certain players, I can imagine that happening, but that's just papering over the cracks. Fabs, Nas and Clichy want out because the club isn't buying and showing too much faith in young players that have no Prem experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Come on now, UTD never had money for the last few season thats why they never spent tbh, But fergir trusted his board and got results thats the diffrence.

    I Can't tell you why we have not spent on qualtty this season and we'd never know till someone speaks out i suppose.
    They spent but not huge amounts, but then they kept winning trophies so maybe they didn't need to.

    After last season it was clear players were needed, guess what...this summer they spent money.

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    No and its really sad to see what he has done to the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    slowly over the years he has gained more control of the club and its dealings, whether on or off the pitch. thats common knowledge. you think wenger has the exact same responsibilities and control now as he had when he first started in 1996? come on man open your eyes.

    as for the 2nd part, we've all read it over the past few years, i cant give you an exact date as to when he said it. around the time madrid came knocking and also when we were constantly linked to being taken over.
    of course his responsibilities have grown but he does not control the club strategy, no lower level director (and that's what he is) would do so.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-Football.html

    2008/09 was when madrid last came sniffing

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