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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumble View Post
    Not great result and if we don't get something in Dortmund, napoli is the last game.

    We will space palace but against better sides need pace in side to stretch oppo.
    Lack of pace is definitely a problem for us. Not to mention our fullbacks are shit at crossing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milla View Post
    Lack of pace is definitely a problem for us. Not to mention our fullbacks are shit at crossing.
    Came back in to lament about this.

    We haven't really had any success since we gave up on players who added said pace and width.

    Looking at Dortmund today, I reckon we would have put them to the sword if we had proper wide players, the kind that could deliver some proper crosses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milla View Post
    Lack of pace is definitely a problem for us. Not to mention our fullbacks are shit at crossing.
    Hit and miss though he may be, we did miss Walcott today. Dortmund played a very high defensive line for most of the game, which allowed them to press us deep in our own half and give our creative players zero time on the ball. They wouldn't have been able to do that with Theo on the pitch.

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    Don't know if pace is necessarily always decisive. We took Napoli to school with the same set-up. Rosicky seems to have found a niche as a CL specialist. Dortmund's pressing is excellent though and they nullified Ozil in particular, who was pretty crap. In spite of this we did have openings in a tight game and it was the fine margins that cost us.

    That said, good point above ^ regarding the high line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh_Gooner View Post
    Came back in to lament about this.

    We haven't really had any success since we gave up on players who added said pace and width.

    Looking at Dortmund today, I reckon we would have put them to the sword if we had proper wide players, the kind that could deliver some proper crosses.
    There was a bit of hesitation all over at times today. Against lesser opposition, you get that split second more.

    The difference tonight were a few opportunities where quicker ball was needed and didn't get that cross in, or nip that ball through in time.

    That's all to do with tempo, and a bit of confidence. At times we werw trying too hard, when the simple ball would hve sufficed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Bendtner View Post
    Don't know if pace is necessarily always decisive. We took Napoli to school with the same set-up. Rosicky seems to have found a niche as a CL specialist. Dortmund's pressing is excellent though and they nullified Ozil in particular, who was pretty crap. In spite of this we did have openings in a tight game and it was the fine margins that cost us.

    That said, good point above ^ regarding the high line.
    Rozza is a solid player not a niche CL specialist or squddie. Even at 32 he is still better all rounder than Jack and most of PL midfielders. Let him settle with with our first eleven and we will have a very fluid attacking team.
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    Wasn't a bad performance, but with 20 minutes to go, we easily could've held out for the point if we wanted it. Dortmund were happy to take a point. But then I think Wenger was a little naive in pushing forward so hard for the win when 7 points would've still left us in a much, much stronger position in the group. i.e. it wasn't worth the risk to turn 7 points into 9 IMO.

    Still, there were still plenty of positives to take. Thought Arteta and Giroud were excellent. And Koscielny and Rosicky also did very well. Fullbacks disappointing but they had a tough time with Ozil basically playing as the second striker.

    It's great that we're playing Palace next. Easy game to get back to winning ways.

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    We got punished for our mistakes tonight. That is what quality teams will do to you - and Dortmund have quality. That said, I don't see them getting that second with Flamini on the pitch.

    Almost all the talk of the transfer window has been about Ozil, yet Flamini has almost been as instrumental to our success.
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    There would be a certain irony if this team who are clearly much better than any in the last 4-5 years didn't make it out of the group and yet those other teams did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh_Gooner View Post
    Came back in to lament about this.

    We haven't really had any success since we gave up on players who added said pace and width.

    Looking at Dortmund today, I reckon we would have put them to the sword if we had proper wide players, the kind that could deliver some proper crosses.
    Again tactics. Whenever they attacked they always outnumbered our defence. Gibbsoffers nothing attack, always going catatonic when in the opposition box. The second goal there was no fullback in sight. Your two fullback can't goal at the same time especially against strong counterattacking team

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