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    Not hugely strange. That they are that good and play that much is why whether they should be rested is questioned at all.

    I don't think you so much look at the previous as closely as that. You might have played 50 games once a week consecutively but if you suddenly have 2/3 days between two games, THAT, might be the time you get injured. It is by no means a precise science and clearly you are working with the unknown but when you have a run of really difficult games managing the situation comes into the fore. Not too many are berating Giroud being rested now and his replacement isn't close to the standard of Ramsey's or anyone else's.

    That said I didn't realise there were 9 days between City and Chelsea and if Ramsey did have two weeks off with Wales I suppose he will be fine in truth. I think his fitness levels are quite extraordinary.

    Aside from that, I do think that people have forgotten that Wilshere (don't think he is very popular on here anyway) has actually played really well the last few games he has actually played. Better than Cazorla and better than Ozil before his last game. When you have quality like Wilshere, Rosicky and Flamini who may not start then rotation can be as much about tailoring the team to the opposition as it is about any 'rest' per se.

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    they are on form and have only lost once this season. they are a good side who will also give it a go and not just sit back. Think it will be a really good game, they beat United by playing properly no undeserved win. So we will have to play well to win. We have spanked them a few times over the years though but think it will be close but we keep control of Lukaku then 2-0 as cant see them scoring unless he Drogba's us.

    think first goal is key, we score first and they dont stand a chance but they score first and we might lose. would start walcott as he should be fully fresh assuming he isnt still ill of course.

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    Didn't realise they had only lost once.

    Moyes.

    Martinez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOëL View Post
    Didn't realise they had only lost once.

    Moyes.

    Martinez.
    Also they concede fewer goals a game than they did last season I think as well. Although I still think Moyes is a good manager.

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    I agree. I don't think he's started well but he is still a good manager imo too. We have a good record against Everton and they will be more expansive than usual so I fancy us to win. Any win will do as Martinez has done Wenger before.

    Lukaku really should be an Arsenal player. Attitude of Ramsey and the potential ability of Drogba.

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    The Flamsters got a little bit groin, wanted him to blind Lukaku too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    Not hugely strange. That they are that good and play that much is why whether they should be rested is questioned at all.

    I don't think you so much look at the previous as closely as that. You might have played 50 games once a week consecutively but if you suddenly have 2/3 days between two games, THAT, might be the time you get injured. It is by no means a precise science and clearly you are working with the unknown but when you have a run of really difficult games managing the situation comes into the fore. Not too many are berating Giroud being rested now and his replacement isn't close to the standard of Ramsey's or anyone else's.

    That said I didn't realise there were 9 days between City and Chelsea and if Ramsey did have two weeks off with Wales I suppose he will be fine in truth. I think his fitness levels are quite extraordinary.

    Aside from that, I do think that people have forgotten that Wilshere (don't think he is very popular on here anyway) has actually played really well the last few games he has actually played. Better than Cazorla and better than Ozil before his last game. When you have quality like Wilshere, Rosicky and Flamini who may not start then rotation can be as much about tailoring the team to the opposition as it is about any 'rest' per se.
    If what you say is true that players are likely to be injured in the 2/3 days between games then I see this as the right time to get players used to that kind of grind when it returns again in February for Champions League (if we qualify) when they will be playing all three games. However we don't have the League Cup as an issue this season so that will take care of that

    It's not working with the unknown as such, if they're near the red zone (which can be determined) then they won't be played. If they aren't, then they will be played. I don't think there is much difference in the likeliness to pull a hamstring in training with less intense preparation than you are exert yourself in a match. Wilshere has played well for sure but he has played well at the same time as Ramsey and Özil are playing.

    Ramsey, Özil and Giroud don't really have a history of muscle injuries so I don't think the need to rest them is as prevalent as it might be for Wilshere with his perennial ankle issue.

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    Wenger's track record isn't the best and he has overplayed some players in previous years, but I think that was largely down to poorer squads. There are legitimate options now so I don't think we need to be worried about Wenger taking a chance on key players.

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    Has Wenger not given his press conference for this yet? Nothing on the site so far and he usually has that at 9 am in the morning.

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    Sajma was in the background with the training kit in that photo about the World Cup so I presume he's back.

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