When do we start to believe ?

[Power n Glory]

Good post but should have been in the match reaction . Wrong place .

I've said similar in the match thread but I'm responding to IBK's post. Over the past few days we've been talking about our title chances and the tests we've faced over the few days. Never saw this result coming in. Totally deflated. We lost but it's the manner and capitulation that worries me most. You don't lose like that when top of the league.

[Niall_Quinn]

Should have beaten Everton, should have beaten Napoli. Then the city result could be written off as the freakshow it actually was. Now it's the third bad result in a week and leaves us very exposed should things go against us vs the chavs. We're just one dodgy ref away from a 4th beating, i you count the result against Everton as a loss which psychologically it was. Very poor showing when the real test came, mostly down to negative tactics in the two earlier games. I suppose the question really ought to be when will Wenger believe. If he doesn't think we can go out and play Everton and Napoli off the park then he can't really hold much hopes for a title shot.

[Grebbo]

Let's see what Wenger does in Jan. No-way would Ozil have joined us without the promise of us splashing the cash or 'project' as it's called these days.

There's no shame in getting thrashed by City. Their squad is light years, or about £300m, ahead of ours. And yes it is that simple, the best players cost big bucks, the best players make the best teams and the best teams more often than not win the trophies.

[Özim]

Let's see what Wenger does in Jan. No-way would Ozil have joined us without the promise of us splashing the cash or 'project' as it's called these days.

There's no shame in getting thrashed by City. Their squad is light years, or about £300m, ahead of ours. And yes it is that simple, the best players cost big bucks, the best players make the best teams and the best teams more often than not win the trophies.

There is shame in a club of our size getting thrashed by anyone to be honest, it's unacceptable whatever the opposition.

[JonasTC]

Let's see what Wenger does in Jan. No-way would Ozil have joined us without the promise of us splashing the cash or 'project' as it's called these days.

There's no shame in getting thrashed by City. Their squad is light years, or about £300m, ahead of ours. And yes it is that simple, the best players cost big bucks, the best players make the best teams and the best teams more often than not win the trophies.

I have my hopes up for the January transfer window, apperently we tried to get David Villa back in January and he wanted to go to us, but Barca in the end were afraid of injured players and promised him he could leave in the summer instead. So i think we will see a good striker joining our ranks, i would love for us to go for a guy like Michu, i really believe he can be a top striker for a team like ours. He has the height and can do a target man job like Giroud, but he has better finishing, is faster and is smarter aswell, which would see him do the much needed runs behind defence that Giroud isnt doing. Other realistic names could be Benteke or Pato.

[milla]

Michu, Benteke and Pato are the best available right now. They are not in the top bracket but very very good players. All three of them come with more pace and technique compare to what we have now.

[Özim]

Pato's is the Brazilian Reyes, he was overrated and overhyped and that's why he's back in Brazil with no decent European clubs interested.

[milla]

I like Reyes, fine by me.

[Özim]

I'm glad you like him, but in football terms he was a flop. Best avoid those we're not a graveyard for overhyped footballers.

[milla]

You can say what you like. Pato is no flopped but blighted by injuries during his stay in Milan. Reyes was just a simple case of mismanaged by Arsenal. He was good at Madrid and won medals in Spain and Portugal.

Vela is not bad choice either, 0.5 goal ration for nearly 2 season at Real Sociedad.