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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    32 million is a lot of money for someone who has really only done really well this season, like I said last season he was OK but very much secondary to Falcoa.

    I haven't modified my argument, I've seen this guy play over 2 seasons and am giving my opinion of him, like I said based on what I've seen he's good but not in the same class as the top players IMO at this stage.
    How much do you think he'll be worth should he go on to being consistently awesome, if he's already valued at 32mil?

    And, I didn't say you've modified your argument.....well, not just yet in this instance. But going off how you did it when we were tinkering with Suarez, I feel you'll do same again here should we still be interested in a year or 2, providing he's become top notch commanding a massive transfer fee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Torres and Aguero both stood out for Athletico, I can remember seeing them, there was much more about them than there is about Costa no doubt about it, their skills were obvious, Costa's aren't as apparent as he's not the same kind of player. Yes he's keeping up with Ronaldo, however it's not unheard of for players to have one prolific season, there are plenty of examples.

    I don't think we'll sign him anyway, but regardless of that I still have my reservations based on what I've seen of him over two seasons, someone referred to him last season and I actually said I don't really rate him at the time.
    Yep, they were both more rounded players, they could score goals, but were really great team players. Both of them had breakthrough seasons when they were teenagers too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santa's Big Sack.........of Gifts View Post
    How much do you think he'll be worth should he go on to being consistently awesome, if he's already valued at 32mil?

    And, I didn't say you've modified your argument.....well, not just yet in this instance. But going off how you did it when we were tinkering with Suarez, I feel you'll do same again here should we still be interested in a year or 2, providing he's become top notch commanding a massive transfer fee.
    Not sure but 32 million is too much anyhow based on what he's done so far, but that's Spain for you with their buy out clauses, they never really represent the value of the player.

    Suarez is top class I think we can see that, I didn't want him though and still don't as he's a scumbag but 42 million was enough money for him at the time IMO. 32 million is a lot for Costa, considering his career record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Yep, they were both more rounded players, they could score goals, but were really great team players. Both of them had breakthrough seasons when they were teenagers too.
    Exactly and that's not knocking Costa, it's just that they were always considered special talents, Costa hasn't really been, he's played 2nd fiddle at Athletico for a while and has only really come good this season.

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    Ye he sucks because he was behind a guy that was being considered the best striker in the world and as soon as he leaves he does even better than him, makes sense. 2 of the best national teams in the world are were fighting for him to play for them, doesnt mean anything either i guess... Diego Costa have been doing great for the last 3 seasons and we're forgetting looking at what he would offer us, not only is he strong and really fast, he always gets into really good positions and when he gets the proper pass, he doesnt dissapoint. I dont care if he dont have the technical level of Suarez or Aguero, all we need for a striker is a guy who gets into the right positions, because he will be fed all day at our club.

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    Just read a bit about him, last season there were already coaches/players saying they believed he was slightly better than Falcao, because he had more tools to play with, so i guess the hype is not new. Him blooming late might have something to do with that he didnt play football at a club before he was 16.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonasTC View Post
    Ye he sucks because he was behind a guy that was being considered the best striker in the world and as soon as he leaves he does even better than him, makes sense. 2 of the best national teams in the world are were fighting for him to play for them, doesnt mean anything either i guess... Diego Costa have been doing great for the last 3 seasons and we're forgetting looking at what he would offer us, not only is he strong and really fast, he always gets into really good positions and when he gets the proper pass, he doesnt dissapoint. I dont care if he dont have the technical level of Suarez or Aguero, all we need for a striker is a guy who gets into the right positions, because he will be fed all day at our club.
    Everything he said here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonasTC View Post
    Ye he sucks because he was behind a guy that was being considered the best striker in the world and as soon as he leaves he does even better than him, makes sense. 2 of the best national teams in the world are were fighting for him to play for them, doesnt mean anything either i guess... Diego Costa have been doing great for the last 3 seasons and we're forgetting looking at what he would offer us, not only is he strong and really fast, he always gets into really good positions and when he gets the proper pass, he doesnt dissapoint. I dont care if he dont have the technical level of Suarez or Aguero, all we need for a striker is a guy who gets into the right positions, because he will be fed all day at our club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    All of those players you have listed were established goalscorers in La Liga, I.E. had scored goals scored consistently over a number of seasons. Torres & Aguero were major talents, it's not like they were gambles, they were both established at International level too. Costa isn't there yet, spending 30mill on him would be a risk for a club like us IMHO. It's not about waiting 3 seasons for him to blossom, it's about paying the market rate for established quality, we are not a club that can risk wasting 30million on gambles.

    I'd much rather we spend say 10-15million on a squad player and then spend big in the summer on the real deal.

    I genuinely believe if spending 30million, you need at least 2 consistent seasons out of a player and at the very least they need to be capped at International level.
    That is one way to look at it and they were established goal scorers in La Liga...... and yet none of that lot (or at least not all) were THE top scorer in Spain. Costa is the leading scorer with Cronaldo.

    Would Costa represent a risk? Absolutely he does. Pretty much any player you sign out of Spain barring Cronaldo or Messi or Bale are going to be a significant risk. Aguero and Torres were both risks themselves. You might argue for different reasons to Costa, but the fact is you take a risk on any player for any substantial fee 90% of the time. And you are wrong, Costa has 2 international caps for Brazil.

    When you aren't taking a risk, or at least not so much of one, that is precisely when you are paying 50 million plus for a player, hence the transfers of Cavani, Falcao and others this summer gone.

    Ozil himself, is a player who has divided opinion amongst our fans to an extent himself at 42.5 million. Was that not a risk?

    Calling the leading scorer in Spain, who Spain are trying to nationalise 'wasting' 30 million on a gamble is a bit of a stretch. Using the word 'wasting' on a gamble in the context you used it, implies you are under no doubt that he will be a dud, which I find curious too.....

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    Well, I've not seen much of him, but from the bit I have seen, I'd say he looks a good fit for us? He's spent the last season or two playing the support act to Falcao, which means he'll have been able to hone that aspect of his game, and this season he's showing that he can also be prolific as the main man too - sounds like we'd be getting a player who would allow us to retain the link-up play that Giroud brings to the side, but also add more pace and goals? Isn't that ideal?

    Coming at it from a different angle, you also have to ask yourself who else is available who would represent a better option for us? Assuming for a minute that the Suarez deal is a no-go, and that Lewandowski is still Bayern-bound, then this guy would have to be at the top of the list of whoever is left? Plus, how many of the other options that we might be looking at have release clauses that would compel their clubs to sell for a fixed price?

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    It wouldn't make sense for Athletico to sell in January but aren't they still in debt?

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