Was sat around a table of relatives passing around lumpy cold mashed potato when I heard the result.
Most of them are spuds too.
Irony at it's best.
Was sat around a table of relatives passing around lumpy cold mashed potato when I heard the result.
Most of them are spuds too.
Irony at it's best.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Alanis
Well he's fairly strong, quick, great with both feet & good in the air. He plays off or alongside Lewandowski quite a bit for Dortmund now so it wouldn't be alien to him.Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
I am sure I read he has a 40million buyout clause in his contract, I would say that is a fair valuation of him in the current market & he definitely has room to improve. I like him a lot, he's on the fringes of a being a truly world class player IMHO, just needs to find a bit more consistency. Saying that he has already delivered for both Dortmund & Germany and is pretty much first choice for Germany now.
I find it a little simplistic view, even if it would work in practice. Not sure it would serve him any better playing CF than him playing on the left. You have to be more than fairly strong to pull it off in the prem. You have to be a physical match for the Centre halves in the prem who are typically the strongest players in the division.....unless we are happy with our CF being totally physically dominated for the entire 90 minutes.
AT Dortmund he starts on the left....never mind what actually happens when they attack. If it is naturally his game to get beyond the lines and link up with another more powerful player then he can do so without actually starting as the CF imo.
I do find it strange that you believe 40 million to be a fair valuation considering some of the other views you've expressed. I don't think the valuation is too far north of what he is worth, but I'm not quite sure he is worth 40 million to our team as it is.
You can't expect Reus to operates like Girourd or Bendtner but much more like Suarez or Aguero is now. His quoted price is in EUR not GBP imo.
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Dortmund won't let him go for much less than that.
If you want players of his quality, that's what you have to pay.
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After Gotze and Lewandowski you can bet your house Dortmund will not let Reus go cheaply.
somebody put something in my milk
Oh, I do agree that getting a striker is a priority. Although technically we do have Podolski and Bendtner who can play as a CF too. As for our wide options you could say we can play Cazorla, Ozil, Rosicky, Ramsey, and Wilshere there but that's just playing players out of position, and they don't play there particularly well. It's like saying we can play Flamini at left back - we all know he can play there but we only want him there as cover in an emergency and not as a regular role over a season which our CAMs have been doing. Theo are Podolski are fine there but as I said before I don't think they are top level forwards and there is a lot of scope for improvement.
Cazorla's best position for us is right behind the striker regardless of where he has played before. Even when he's playing well on the wing he plays far too deep and central. He gets freedom to move around but usually comes infield to play a bit of tippy tappy triangles in front of the opponent's box which only helps us keep possession and doesn't normally contribute to breaking them down. It also means that when Ozil gets the ball on the counter there's usually only two players in front of him - Giroud and Theo - because Cazorla's in line with him or drifting somewhere else when he receives the ball. That's a waste of Ozil's best talent with his vision, especially since Giroud is slow and always runs towards the ball. So basically by playing Santi there we are restricting our two best playmakers rather than getting the best out of them.
Reus isn't a speed freak like Henry was but he does have a very good turn of pace and acceleration. He's also got great balance and is hard to shake off the ball like a lot of 'small' European attackers nowadays. Physically he's certainly no worse than Suarez or RvP so I can't see that being an issue. It's hard how well he'd do without actually seeing him play there so I personally wouldn't sign him specifically as a CF. But as a wide forward he's lightyears ahead of anyone we've got so it's a no-brainer if we've got enough cash.Henry was 6'2 had pace, power, and all the ball ability in the world. Reus doesn't have anything like the power or even pace. If we are suggesting giving him a free role (like Cronaldo or Bale at Spurs) then fine, but I really have been yet to be convinced by the idea of Reus as a CF in a 433. I just can't get my head round why so many think it's a great idea.
That's why I said to play CF 'convincingly'. I don't feel Walcott or Podolski have....least not for a lengthy period of time. Don't get me started on the great Dane. I was quite specific about our wide options too. I mentioned Cazorla, Ozil, Podolski, Gnabry and Walcott and not Rosicky, Ramsey or Wilshere because I feel the former group have played there convincingly and can continue to do so if asked to.
I will agree to disagree with many on Cazorla's positioning.
Suarez and RvP are tough boys. Anyone who has met RvP will tell you he has quite the stature and is 6'2 whilst Suarez has great balance, but also great strength and is constantly willing to knock anyone in the ground over to score, be it the opposition, the ref, the goaly, a little girl in the stand.... Anyone who points to Aguero or Tevez would be completely missing the fact both of those guys like Suarez give as good as they get and more so and both are powerful players. I've seen the pair of them regularly knock over defenders twice their size. Without that power they would be ineffective in that position and that is despite their ability as footballers.
The wide left position is probably the best served in the squad with Podolski, Cazorla and Ozil all able to play there so I am a little surprised quite so many would spend whatever it would take to sign Reus and playing him left or even more unbelievably CF.
Spot on.
Im just glad we have so many grade A coaches and scouts on here.
Just a shame they cant use their skills and find a more sensibly priced prospect.
Until then, lets reserve the mega money for players adept in the position we require them for.
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