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    Giroud's needs a rest. Was very close to injuring himself yesterday. He's off form and needs a bench anyway but he's next in line to pick up an injury. Ozil and Ramsey have picked up injuries and we've said for a while they've needed a rest alongside Giroud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rude Elf View Post
    He has a litlle bit 'three week' shoulder injury, expect him back in March.
    Gulp...

    I watched the game without hearing the pre game build up so I just assumed he was on the bench! I hope it isn't anything like Theo's 'stomach ache'!

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    inflammed shoulder. The party line is 'maybe a week, maybe less'. He might well be back for this game. But the details about Ramsey's injury are suspiciously vague. No real suggestion of a timeframe so you guess he's the one who might be out for a while.

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    I heard 2-4 weeks for Ramsey. I can't recall where I heard it though and consequently cannot gauge how accurate it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Giroud's needs a rest. Was very close to injuring himself yesterday. He's off form and needs a bench anyway but he's next in line to pick up an injury. Ozil and Ramsey have picked up injuries and we've said for a while they've needed a rest alongside Giroud.
    He looked like he played with an injury yesterday.

    He was limping and showing pain on his face when he came out of the tunnel for the second half and he did the same again when he was subbed off.

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    The guy has been run into the ground and it's shown in his performances and lack of goals.

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    Giroud always looks like he's in agony.

    I think his lack of goals is down to not being a top-of-the-range striker rather than being knackered. He doesn't exactly have a history of putting lower percentage chances away. He's a good player, but sadly unlikely ever to be a ruthless finisher.

    Too much focus is put on our players being close to collapsing. Most top teams play their top players in the majority of games. Ronaldo and Messi play almost every game when available. When Chelsea were at their peak, they played almost the same team in every competition week after week. Wenger has maybe played a few young players (Cisc and Wilshere) too much too soon, but if players like Giroud and Ramsey have great stamina and are not easily injured (which Ramsey hasn't been outside of being almost maimed by a thug) then there's not a problem with them playing so often. Their lack of form can be just that: a lack of form and not because they play a couple of games of football a week. I'm not saying players shouldn't be rested, but too much is made of our players supposedly being run into the ground when stats show that Wenger has rotated as much, if not more, than other top teams. I think we've used more players than City as well, who apparently have the mightiest squad ever assembled.

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    I generally agree, particularly where Giroud is concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Splinter View Post
    Giroud always looks like he's in agony.

    I think his lack of goals is down to not being a top-of-the-range striker rather than being knackered. He doesn't exactly have a history of putting lower percentage chances away. He's a good player, but sadly unlikely ever to be a ruthless finisher.

    Too much focus is put on our players being close to collapsing. Most top teams play their top players in the majority of games. Ronaldo and Messi play almost every game when available. When Chelsea were at their peak, they played almost the same team in every competition week after week. Wenger has maybe played a few young players (Cisc and Wilshere) too much too soon, but if players like Giroud and Ramsey have great stamina and are not easily injured (which Ramsey hasn't been outside of being almost maimed by a thug) then there's not a problem with them playing so often. Their lack of form can be just that: a lack of form and not because they play a couple of games of football a week. I'm not saying players shouldn't be rested, but too much is made of our players supposedly being run into the ground when stats show that Wenger has rotated as much, if not more, than other top teams. I think we've used more players than City as well, who apparently have the mightiest squad ever assembled.
    Yeah, I agree with that. I wouldn't say the chances Giroud's missing are down to fatigue. I'd say that's more down to form because he's missing easy chances. If he wasn't putting himself about and it looked as though he was struggling to run and having long bouts of inactivity, then fair enough. But I'm more worried about him picking up an unnecessary injury. I think Wenger is worried about dropping him because it may effect his confidence. He's scored one now so we'll see if plays against Cardiff.

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    Ozil is fine.

    Wenger is giving him his winter break.

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