Match Reaction v Man Utd

[Niall_Quinn]

The trouble with what you just said is the first part sounds very true and the second plausible. Well may not be Avram Grant though but.. The safe path for us is to have a go at the board and have them resposnible
About the game I will talk about the positives 1. Francis Coquelin 2. Arshavin had a little bit fight in him not seen for god knows how long.3. The team kept going for a while despite being down which is up form the past few seasons
The negatives
1. Too many induvidual mistakes from the back 4. Difficult to put a finger on Koscielny though
2. Wonder why Chesney didnt have anyone else covering one side of the post for the set pieces
3. The team was too direct and open

This is maybe about mindlessly getting 100% behind the team, even if they end up getting stuffed every week, and religiously showing nothing but total contempt for the senior club officials.

[Niall_Quinn]

WWTL@WHL);37192]He's...having[/email] a Holocaust?!
That well known phrase or saying.
What a dick.

Yeah, it's Cascarino, the well known anti-Semite. The bimbo can't figure out that by making such a fuss SHE's the one causing the potential offence. Cascarino may be dumb but not half as dumb or mind controlled as the bimbo.

[IBK]

This is maybe about mindlessly getting 100% behind the team, even if they end up getting stuffed every week, and religiously showing nothing but total contempt for the senior club officials.

Well the only thing that we could be proud of today was the away fans who defied the theory that we aren't passionate.

[gunsofashburtongrove]

This is maybe about mindlessly getting 100% behind the team, even if they end up getting stuffed every week, and religiously showing nothing but total contempt for the senior club officials.

Not entirely. Its just letting the officials know that we are not happy and forcing them to make a responsible decision. I'am not saying we should oppose everything that the board does or say. just put the pressure on them.

[gunsofashburtongrove]

Well the only thing that we could be proud of today was the away fans who defied the theory that we aren't passionate.

The fans were brilliant tonight

[Fist of Lehmann]

If it is clear that Wenger takes home a share of the profits then the OFT or some regulatory body should be looking into it. It is a clear conflict of interests and it's very possible that the fans are being shafted (as we suspect).

Actually, even if it is not clear it should be looked into. We should have the right to know what is happening to the money.

The 60-year-old said: "No, I do not own any shares because I felt always that I [must] try to do the job with a good work ethic and not to be accused of any decision being of my personal interest.

"I thought always it`s healthier not to be involved in it at all. So I cannot be accused that whatever decision I make looks after my own interest."

He says he owns no shares and, for the reasons stated (conflict of interests) it's reasonable to assume no profit related pay either.
Nor would you expect him to be.

Can't remember whether he's on performance related pay.

[Niall_Quinn]

Not entirely. Its just letting the officials know that we are not happy and forcing them to make a responsible decision. I'am not saying we should oppose everything that the board does or say. just put the pressure on them.

Doubt they'll give a shit about mild or orderly objections. Would you if you'd just been handed £100mill and could walk and sit on a beach? Their gravy train arrived already. But maybe they are so vain, if the hostility reaches a certainly intensity (very high I predict) they will bend a little to placate the plebs and save unnecessary embarrassment at dinner parties.

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He says he owns no shares and, for the reasons stated (conflict of interests) it's reasonable to assume no profit related pay either.
Nor would you expect him to be.

Can't remember whether he's on performance related pay.

Interesting, thanks.

[Tipsychubbs]

I can see again that some are trying to turn this into another blame game as with the poll thread. The board have LITTLE to do with this. We simply do not know how to defend. The board do not do player selection or training or tactics. This has been an ongoing problem since the invincibles. Our coaching is suspect and has been for years. Gary Cahill, Samba, et al will not improve things. Wenger needs to go or the coaching team needs booting out, preferably both. Our players do not know how to react in given situations and our midfield allow runners to pass them by like statues. We need Bould to take over the defensive coaching ASAP

One of the cruxes of the matter. Simply signing a defender and midfielder or two won't sort this, it is a team mentality that needs to change on the training pitch. Wenger's attact attack attack mentality has been exposed for years, he hasn't got the basics and the balance right. And I'm not sure he can.

This is one of the biggest reasons why we need a new manager. He inherited a superb Graham defence. He supplemented it with strong, physical, athletic players well suited for the premiership e.g. Viera, Petit, Toure, Lauren, Sol Campbell etc.

And then he totally changed and tried to be like Barcelona, building a team around a playmaker instead of a box to box midfielder who was as good in defence as attack, going for a pass pass pass philosophy and abandoning defensive organisation all over the pitch.

He can't correct this, its too big for him. I'm not sure he fully understands the problem, or even if he does he is either unable or too stubborn to change it. He needs to go. And so do the joke of a board who will still be smoking their Cuban cigars and counting the cash regardless of this embarrassing result.

[gunsofashburtongrove]

Doubt they'll give a shit about mild or orderly objections. Would you if you'd just been handed £100mill and could walk and sit on a beach? Their gravy train arrived already. But maybe they are so vain, if the hostility reaches a certainly intensity (very high I predict) they will bend a little to placate the plebs and save unnecessary embarrassment at dinner parties.

I'am not talking about the nice mild agitation sorts. I agree that it has to be high intensity, how ever the rants and jeers have to be directed at the board and not anyone else. If they think its because Wenger is not doing a Job its for them to make a decision. If the fans shout for a change in manager its easy for them.