Well he has been incompetent that's for sure. He's calling it an accident. Getting beat 6-0 isn't on when it isn't the only thrashing we've had this season.Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Well he has been incompetent that's for sure. He's calling it an accident. Getting beat 6-0 isn't on when it isn't the only thrashing we've had this season.
I'm sure he's telling the team exactly that.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
It isn't on - it is hardly intentional.Unlike the intentional ridicule and glee in heaping ridicule on a man that has been Arsenal through and through for 18 years is not just 'not on', it is disgusting.
I want a change of Manager, but more than that, I want absolutely to have no association with the bile Wenger has been subject to, from fans of our Club.
what changes would you have made then? at 2-0 down, with that bench, what would you have done?Don't know why he's being flamed for that, questionable replacements yes, but the basis of it is that we need a manager who tells it like it is.
We need a manager who is willing to change things around, rather than just sitting on his arse and watching the team get smashed. Had Wenger made some changes at 2-0 , we might have had a chance to nick something atleast.
probably very little, there wasn't much that could be changed we were that bad. yes that is down to Arsene as well as the players, it would have been nice to have a fit squad and yes mistakes were made in not signing a striker etc, that is old ground. At 2-0 at the bridge, what would you have done? Im not sure there is much he could have done bar tell the team to stop playing like shit. Just because he didnt stand up and wave his arms around and show "passion" doesn't mean he doesn't care.
I think the lack of responsive changes goes deeper than in just this match. There have been too many occasions this season where there has been a complete lack of deviation personnel and set up, when it is clear that changes are needed. Too often it looks like all substitutions have been determined prior to kick-off and whatever happens afterwards on the pitch seems immaterial.
Well with my Football Manager experience
Arteta off, Flamini on.
Rosicky moved to the middle.
Ox moved out to the wing.
Giroud off, Sanogo on.
Tell Sagna and Gibbs to limit their advances up the pitch.
Podolski off , Gnabry on.
He could've changed something. The way he set out the team was far too open. I'm not doubting his passion for the club.
Last edited by Munchies; 24-03-2014 at 11:24 PM.
fair point that though i do feel his tactics in the last 18 months have been a lot better. Although you don't win anything for getting the most points in a calendar year, you do however need to get your tactics right to manage that. Clearly he got more games right with this squad then he used to before but the big games are the problem.
I do think perhaps change is needed now, and it really is with a heavy heart i say that.
its got the point now that i almost want Arsene to go because i can't face another season where every result that isn't a win, ignoring every single bit of context about the result, results in everyone calling Arsene a cunt and get him out. its just boring, repetitive and stupid.
How many people have seriously called him a cunt recently? I dont remember seeing much in the way of people getting personal as they used to (I was one of them). Yes, many have called him clueless but he hasnt faced any serious vile. I think too much is made of AW receiving "insults". Again, my response is from what I see and read on GW. May be the word on the street is different.
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
That's because some of us are fighting hard to get this manager the respect he deserves. It's good if the mindless insults have been rowed back. It means we can start getting to a place where we can have a real debate about the future of the club. The one thing that's really important to consider, if anyone here thinks they are a bigger fan of Arsenal than Arsene Wenger - well they are as wrong as it is possible to be. We're talking about the biggest fan of this club when we are talking about our manager. So respect? I should say so.
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