New manager

[AFC Leveller]

That's what kills me. Chelsea/Jose quality counter attacks, that shouldn't have been a surprise. That is how Jose sets his teams up and he's always on about quick transitions. We should have been prepared. Also, the results against Bayern and Spurs weren't convincing. We didn't get thrashed and taking a point and winning against Spurs away is a good result. But you can't just look at the outcome for those games going in against Chelsea.

Against Spurs and Bayern, we passed the ball poorly and have it away cheaply. It were close to 60% against us which is very unusual. They had chances and poor quality is what let them down. It wasn't a complete shut out and we didn't control the game with ease. Bayern dominated us in possession and they had 70%. We struggled to cope with their pressing, didn't create many chances but defended well.

Now in light of that, why were the players so reckless in possession against Chelsea? A team that are deadly on the counter and it's something we should have been aware of from the start. Shouldn't we have started Ox on the flank and Rosicky in the middle to steady the ship? We always knew Chelsea were going to play two strong defensive bricks in the middle that would be hard to bypass. Bah...just so tired of it all.

Thats what im saying, the lack of understanding and planning from the manager is so frsutrating. Chelsea this season have been efficient but nowhere near deadly and before the game i made the point that they hadnt blown away any team this season and were there for the taking. However, i hadnt realised that this team and manager didnt learn anything from the Liverpool defeat and that they were about to go out there and commit the same errors and basic mistakes they did against Liverpool.

West ham, Palace, Stoke, Everton, West Brom etc all went to the bridge and produced excellent performances and although some lost, they came very close. These teams went in with a plan and made sure they stayed solid and compact. We on the other hand are supposed to be better than them, we have better players, a better manager and have amibitions to win the league but the way we folded was so bad i thought it was a hidden camera show.

The manager has to take much of the flack because this defeat was down to him more than anyone else.

[1_nilto the arsenal]

I think those who are attacking my post are missing the point. All I want is a manager who can make changes when things arent working, who can instruct players to follow tactics and who can correct previous mistakes, like why we do always lie down against the big teams. Every shit team beat Man U at OT and guess what, we were the only club that lost their during their poor showings, typical. I dont care if we lose and I dont care if we dont play champions league football, as long as we fight and show grit and courage rather than being so spinless and weak. 8-2 at OT, how many times have you ever seen Arsenal lose by 8 goals? Its concievable with Wengers Arsenal as the man has no stratedgy, no game plan, doesnt know how to change a game. C'mon please tell me you are watching the same Arsenal. Bad signings, Giroud, Arteta, playing Wilshire when he's out of form and unfit, signing an old timer who was injured to cover injured players???? We all know we needed a striker in Louis Surarez, so we sign a £42 mill midfield flop who looked very good at Madrid but then again who doesnt. In January he had a chance to rectify the situation and chose to do business on the last working day for another midfielder on loan who was injured ffs.

[LDG]

fair point that though i do feel his tactics in the last 18 months have been a lot better. Although you don't win anything for getting the most points in a calendar year, you do however need to get your tactics right to manage that. Clearly he got more games right with this squad then he used to before but the big games are the problem.

I do think perhaps change is needed now, and it really is with a heavy heart i say that.

The defence has been pretth good this year, spankings aside. The attack, not so much.

The reason Wenger has gotten it wrong, IMO, is that the defence is now the basis for this side, and the reason for our relative consistency.

Against the "normal" teams, we go out not to concede, probe a deep lying back line, and nick a few goals.

Against the slightly better teams, Spuds, Everton etc, we look on the back foot, bit theyvaren't good enough to invade our back line, and we can often nick a goal, and generally concede less than we score.

Against the top teams....well, you see what happens when we concede first, and early....against all three of the big piss takes this year, we've been buried in 10 minutes. That says to me, poor preparation, lack of confidence and no plan B.

[AFC Leveller]

The auto subtitue time is also a mistery. If your team is losng 2/3-0 in the first 20 mins, why dont you sub of the ones who keep giving the ball away and bring on fresh legs? why do you wait until its too late?


Frustrating.

[Power n Glory]

I think those who are attacking my post are missing the point. All I want is a manager who can make changes when things arent working, who can instruct players to follow tactics and who can correct previous mistakes, like why we do always lie down against the big teams. Every shit team beat Man U at OT and guess what, we were the only club that lost their during their poor showings, typical. I dont care if we lose and I dont care if we dont play champions league football, as long as we fight and show grit and courage rather than being so spinless and weak. 8-2 at OT, how many times have you ever seen Arsenal lose by 8 goals? Its concievable with Wengers Arsenal as the man has no stratedgy, no game plan, doesnt know how to change a game. C'mon please tell me you are watching the same Arsenal. Bad signings, Giroud, Arteta, playing Wilshire when he's out of form and unfit, signing an old timer who was injured to cover injured players???? We all know we needed a striker in Louis Surarez, so we sign a £42 mill midfield flop who looked very good at Madrid but then again who doesnt. In January he had a chance to rectify the situation and chose to do business on the last working day for another midfielder on loan who was injured ffs.

I hear the frustration and can agree with that. We need a change. On the management side, if we're going for someone with little experience but has a great vision, then I'll always maintain that it has to be someone with a good record against the big clubs, has won a domestic trophy or was legendary player. Someone with weight behind their argument so when they lay into the players they respond.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

So two more years it is then, if the rags are to be afforded an undetectable hint credibility.

I reckon that's enough time for Pep to get bored at Bayern, or around the time Klopp's contract with BVB would have near ran out.

[Munchies]

Stewart Robson has launched a stinging attack on Arsene Wenger after the crushing 6-0 defeat at Chelsea left Arsenal's title bid in tatters and has called for the Frenchman's reign to be brought to an end.

Wenger admitted he was not sure what went wrong at Stamford Bridge on Saturday lunchtime as his side were blown away by their London rivals.

Jose Mourinho's men were 3-0 up inside 17 minutes as Chelsea joined Manchester City and Liverpool in thrashing Arsenal this season.

And the defeat has left Robson furious, with the former Gunners star pointing the finger of blame at Wenger.

“I don’t think they will win the Premier League in the near future. I think they need a change of manager," he said, speaking on The Sports Bar.

"Arsene Wenger said we are not quite sure how it happened [the defeat at Chelsea], but it happened at Liverpool, it happened against Manchester City, it happened a little bit against Southampton. How does he not know what happened?

"Arsenal don’t earn the right to play. Every coach will send his team out and say, ‘before you can go and express yourself, you have to win the battle first. You have to earn the right to play, then once you have earned the right to play, now you can express yourself'. Unless teams drop off and allow Arsenal to play, they can’t cope with the physicality.

"How does he not know what happened in that game, because the exact same thing happened against Liverpool. If you have watched Arsenal as I have over the last seven or eight years they are going to be exposed."

Chelsea's victory kept them top of the pile and Robson has nothing but praise for Mourinho, who he claims would sort out Arsenal's problems in no time.

"If Jose Mourinho was in charge of the Arsenal squad, they would be six, seven, eight points better off than they are now because he is a better coach," added Robson.

"He understands what it takes and getting the balance right between the attacking side of the game and defensive side of the game. He knows that he wants his players to do certain jobs in the team. He knows players have to work hard. He knows players can't throw themselves around and look for free-kicks in the midfield."

The one you've all been waiting for,
http://talksport.com/football/exclus...s8CMgtW6QpO.99

[GP]

No one cares what Robson has to say.

[saintnickle]

No one cares what Robson has to say.

You would think now with 15000 posts that you would realise that no one cares what you have to say either..

[GP]

You would think now with 15000 posts that you would realise that no one cares what you have to say either..

and you are?