New manager

[Niall_Quinn]

He talks about their unquestionable commitment and spirit and says you have to give credit to the effort they put in, he seems to watch something different from everyone else, moreover when he's asked about being let down everytime by a squad that he believes in he deflects the question by saying we live in a world of criticism.

I just don't see any acceptance of the shortcomings anytime he speaks, why does he absolutely refuse to see we're just not up to it, especially after pretty much 9 years of the same thing, it's really puzzling.

It seems to me he feels his achievements in the last 9 years are success and that being genuine contenders until the end or actually winning something by beating the best means little.

He's not prepared to criticise the players in public. It's really that simple. If he heaps the same criticism on them as the media and the pundits and the rest then he's only cutting his own throat. This is what he said, let everyone else criticise and he'll get on with his job. Surely nobody thinks he says the same things behind the scenes as he does in public? Do you think after the chav game he took them all to one side and told them they have great spirit and that was it?

[Niall_Quinn]

And people wonder why he didn't bother with this after the Chelsea game
Whatever he says he'd get hammered, if he says nothing he still gets hammered.

It's even worse when you consider this whole media business is nothing more than an exercise in queuing up the quotes and soundbites that can be used to flog temporary news and sensationalism. There's nothing constructive about any of it, just the hangers on gabbing whatever slice of the game they can while putting zero back.

[BlindFaith_8]

Sad end to the season and possible his tenure at Arsenal. He had the best opportunity by far win the championship this year and get all anti wenger fans behind him. However from being league leaders for 75% of the season we are now scrapping, actually scrapping is too strong; we are now scrambling around working out points and games in hand against Everton or even possiby the Spudz. We should have signed Higuain and Suarez in the summer and the treble was on, I mean League,Uefa CL and FA Cup. But oh no he went on the last 2 hours of the August transfer window and signs an attacking midfielder only becase Real Madrid wated to get rid of him to raise money for the Bale deal. He had all summer to set hi intent and should have made that substantial offer for both Suarez and Higuain. Instead we get offer the buy out clause plus a quid, OMG, then we are led to believe that Higuain is done and dusted only to find out he's in Naples signing for Beneitiz's Napoli? Then 2nd chance came in January and we were league leaders still and again this was his moment to cemnet our 1st place till end of season; Again he fucks around and then last minute decides to sigh an injured defensive midfielder to covr our crocked players?? I cant feel sorry for him or accept his same monotonous dross of sheer bullshit. I have heard it too many times and untl Wenger leaves our club will be happy with 4th place whilist Chelsea, City, Liverpool over take us for the next few seasons. If anyone is happy to go through with thi crap for the next 2 or 3 years please tell me why??

[Power n Glory]

He's not prepared to criticise the players in public. It's really that simple. If he heaps the same criticism on them as the media and the pundits and the rest then he's only cutting his own throat. This is what he said, let everyone else criticise and he'll get on with his job. Surely nobody thinks he says the same things behind the scenes as he does in public? Do you think after the chav game he took them all to one side and told them they have great spirit and that was it?

Considering we’ve just seen another flat performance, why is it impossible to assume he doesn’t say similar things to his players? We didn’t play any different to how we played against Chelsea, we just faced a weaker team. Fullbacks were still bombing forward, poor passing in the middle, a suicidal highline, no organisation. I’m beginning to think he told the players to wipe that Chelsea loss from memory without actually dealing with the problem. I think the players are under the illusion that if they stay patient, press the team high up the field, the opposition will tire an opportunity will come. That’s probably why he can’t fault them too much because it’s his philosophy and gameplan.

[AFC Leveller]

Considering we’ve just seen another flat performance, why is it impossible to assume he doesn’t say similar things to his players? We didn’t play any different to how we played against Chelsea, we just faced a weaker team. Fullbacks were still bombing forward, poor passing in the middle, a suicidal highline, no organisation. I’m beginning to think he told the players to wipe that Chelsea loss from memory without actually dealing with the problem. I think the players are under the illusion that if they stay patient, press the team high up the field, the opposition will tire an opportunity will come. That’s probably why he can’t fault them too much because it’s his philosophy and gameplan.

Agree, esp the bit about starting the game exactly like we did the Chelsea game. We played Liverpool a week after our 5-1 thrashing and i remember we started the game exactly the way we did an Anfield and Sturridge missed two huge chances for them and we were lucky not to be behind. That game could have turned into another spanking. Liverpool also missed a hatful of chances and had a blatant pel denied. We dont start games strongly anymore (maybe Bayern being the exemption) and good teams will punish us.

[Özim]

He's not prepared to criticise the players in public. It's really that simple. If he heaps the same criticism on them as the media and the pundits and the rest then he's only cutting his own throat. This is what he said, let everyone else criticise and he'll get on with his job.

I find this odd, other managers do it when it called for, don't see a problem myself, it's not the even the fact he doesn't criticise them it's the fact he goes as far as praising them after such a dire performance, praising them with things that aren't really true.

Surely nobody thinks he says the same things behind the scenes as he does in public? Do you think after the chav game he took them all to one side and told them they have great spirit and that was it?

Hard to tell sometimes, our form has been poor recently and the drubbings have really led to a "reaction" from the players, they just let the same thing happen again, had a good win against Spurs but that was backs against the wall stuff against a very average Spurs side.

[Power n Glory]

Agree, esp the bit about starting the game exactly like we did the Chelsea game. We played Liverpool a week after our 5-1 thrashing and i remember we started the game exactly the way we did an Anfield and Sturridge missed two huge chances for them and we were lucky not to be behind. That game could have turned into another spanking. Liverpool also missed a hatful of chances and had a blatant pel denied. We dont start games strongly anymore (maybe Bayern being the exemption) and good teams will punish us.

It was the same approach. Highline, fullbacks bomb forward, Arteta and Flaimi push up as far as possible and contain Swansea in their own half, keep the ball moving. That’s Wengerball and what he preaches to the players so what else can he criticise besides individual errors which is something I don’t always agree with unless a player is really asking for it. We have a systematic problem and explains why he’s never out of his seat screaming or making substantial changes. He believes this style of play will eventually lead to goals and in some cases we’re just unlucky or experience the odd ‘accident’. I don’t think he’s ever going to change things.

[fakeyank]

Wengerball

I really hope for his sake that we can win the FA Cup, manage 4th and he walks off. That'd be the best thing he can do for Arsenal Football Club.

[torontogooner]

Regardless if we win the FA Cup, Wenger should start planning his exit speech.

How does Wenger not find it highly embarrassing to keep on trotting out the same lame excuses. The game against Chelsea was an accident and the Swansea game was the result of a hangover. The game against Man City was also an accident, likewise Liverpool, the opening season loss against Villa was an accident. He blames everything on something else, but never himself. He insults us fans every frigging time he spouts this bullshite.

Why do our players get injured so often, and so severely and why does it take them so long to regain match fitness?

Wigan then Hull or Sheffield, there should be no debate about possibly winning. The cup should be a lock. If he cannot put a winning team out against these teams with the appropriate winning tactics then he has no place in our club.

Wenger out!

[Globalgunner]

Walk away from 8m quid with journalists waiting to hear his wise words twice a week?. For a man obsessed with football and who craves attention. This will not be easy. At every other club he will be held accountable for each debacle. Not like here where, "its okay Arsene as long as we secure CL qualification" is the hardest remonstration he will ever hear. It wont be easy. He wouldnt last 6 months in any other top job. If he retires, the only question he will ever from journalists is "Arsene do you think your CV is complete without a CL trophy?". I doubt he will leave easily. He seems to easily shake these disasters off and move on. It will take a momentous effort from the fanbase or some even more abject tonkings from Mourinho to get him out of here.