New manager

[Niall_Quinn]

Piers Morgan had it right all along

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/stat...96389553700865

He's just an attention seeker who gets his arse kicked a thousand times more than Wenger when he comes up against competent opposition. He was run out of America for being too dumb now we have to suffer him back here.

[Özim]

I see Wenger is somewhat irritated by Scholes comments:

"People who have managed zero games have opinions. We have to accept that," said Wenger, whose side face third-placed Manchester City on Saturday.

"If six points is a 'million miles away', I don't know what the translation of a mile into a point is."

Although we are six points behind if Man City win their games in hand it's nine, we've been battered by all the top teams which shows how far behind we are in reality, it's also Scholes opinion (he said in his eyes we were) and he's entitled to think what he likes, surprise Wenger seems irritated by this.

Wengers comments about him have zero games in management is irrelevant you don't have to manage to spot the obvious.

Wenger also dismissed the ex-England international's opinion that Gunners midfielder Jack Wilshere, 22, has "not improved since he was 17".

"Jack has been handicapped by many injuries, but once he is back and playing consistently he will show everybody that [Scholes] is wrong about that," said the Frenchman.

"He is an exceptional player - and Scholes knows that."

Again I have to say Wilshere hasn't improved, IMO he's regressed, what's more his dedication and attitude stinks, signs of a guy who's getting too big for his boots before he's achieved anything.

Won't go down well, but I'm personally sick of Wenger state of denial, 9 years we've had of this and the guy is still in fantasy land, he still thinks we can win the title apparently, not a cats chance in hell I'm afraid, not after those beatings.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26785162

[Ollie the Optimist]

you say we have been battered by all the top teams, however we have only been battered in the away games. When they have come to the emirates, (bar city so i expect this to change tomorrow) we haven't lost. So what this proves against the big teams is that home form tends to get the better result i guess so i don't think we are a million miles away as scholes says.

also with his comments about winning the league, he's hardly said anything stupid. he says tomorrow is our last chance to stay in the race but also that city/chelsea/liverpool are the favourites

[The Emirates Gallactico]

It obviously wasn't a literal comment by Scholes and Wenger shouldn't assume it as such and attack that strawman. He's basically saying we're a long way off, which whilst personally I feel is too harsh is a valid comment. Based some of the evidence seen there are some deep flaws in Wenger's coaching, management and player acquisition which are holding us back and will continue to hold us back unless they are rectified.

Also, he's quite right about Jack. Most people on here were already saying it and I for one am quite glad that his questionable form is getting some notice in the press so it forces and inspires him to work a lot harder to be the player we all expect him to be and not be content with his current showings.

[Özim]

you say we have been battered by all the top teams, however we have only been battered in the away games. When they have come to the emirates, (bar city so i expect this to change tomorrow) we haven't lost. So what this proves against the big teams is that home form tends to get the better result i guess so i don't think we are a million miles away as scholes says.

also with his comments about winning the league, he's hardly said anything stupid. he says tomorrow is our last chance to stay in the race but also that city/chelsea/liverpool are the favourites

At the Emirates we've done OK but you'd expect that at home (though we haven't won many against the better sides either), but it doesn't change those cricket scores we've experienced, I think Scholes is saying we're not close to them and we're not, just look at our record against the top 4 sides in recent years, you'd expect a side close to be able to beat some of them, but we seem to very rarely manage it.

I'm just not convinced we're that close, we had a healthy lead in December and then had a tough run of games and dropped a fair few points, happened again in Feb/March and it was the same story, we had a big opportunity this season with all the changes at other clubs and the start we had.

As for the title, it's gone, it's just not going to happen, losing 6-0 to Chelsea showed that, how many Champions do you know that get tonked three times in one season, his comments about the results seem to indicate he's doesn't accept the failings of his team and just things it's down to luck, it's not bad luck after 9 years of pretty much the same thing.

What I want is for him to accept responsibility and just say we haven't been good enough and we need changes, because those are the facts, especially after those embarrassing results, he brushes them off as if they were just a bad day at the office and nothing to worry about instead.

[Marc Overmars]

Catty comments from Wenget.

I'd suggest someone who has played under the greatest manager of all time and been a part of plenty of successful sides knows what he's talking about.

[Özim]

I watched Scholes comments, he was just giving his opinion, from a football fan point of view, nothing malicious about it and he had a point. Fans expect better than we've had in the last 9 years, as he said we're in there looking for for a few weeks getting a sniff of success and then it all falls apart, new season starts and it's the same all over again.

Would be refreshing to hear Wenger accept it's not good enough for once, particularly after those thrashings which should be totally unacceptable for any club of our stature.

[GP]

Yeah but he's ginger.

[Niall_Quinn]

Scholes is a pundit now so therefore an ex-professional in every sense. The comments about Wilshere were pure shit. I know some will leap to the defence of the Utd guy but Scholes knows how it is and how he's just helped heap more shit on a player struggling with injury. Scholes is in big danger of destroying what was previously an untarnished record as one of the model pros in the game. Shame.

[Niall_Quinn]

Also don't forget who is driving this:


Shut it Scholes? Is that what Wenger said? I didn't think so. The media can't be trusted to report anything, they lie as a matter of routine.