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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Don't forget that we've finished in the top 4 every single year either
    What has Neville done in management?
    I'm not really sure that matters, he just pointed out some poor tactical play by us, whether he managed 10 clubs and won 100 trophies or hasn't managed is kinda irrelevant.

    Tactics and organisation are important in football and if your tactics are poor and you play as individuals you'll struggle.

    Wenger has been found tactically wanting over the years and this was just an example of poor tactics, I don't think we drill the players tactically and the players we buy don't seem to be good enough to be tactically aware and adapt off their own back.

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    Wenger has never been a master tactician, it's true. That isn't new news.
    He isn't 'inept' or 'clueless' though.

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    The words entrenched and stubborn seem more appropriate, and with every big defeat with the exception of the Chelsea game he has been more keen to blame the players than himself, as if if they'd followed his game plan this wouldn't have happened. Well the players look like scared rabbits because of a lack of a game plan...should they individually be performing better yes of course but its certainly not the case that its the players letting the manager down.
    I agree even without trophies his ability to get us into the top four has been exceptional especially in the last couple of seasons, but I doubt his ability to push on from there and it looks on the pitch against the top sides that the players doubt that as well. He constantly looks like a figure running into a brick wall and can't understand what is going on, not through stupidity he's without doubt one of the most intelligent men in football but because he's a prisoner of his own purist principles that seem more like a shackle than at any time during his 17 years here


    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    One could argue it's all he's good at these days but it's not an achievement which should be underestimated, doing it consistently over that period of time with the money other clubs have spent to try and leapfrog us. It's the doing it consistently which is impressive, the last time Liverpool challenged for the title they got 86 points, the following season they finished about 7th. It's ridiculous to say he's 'clueless' or 'inept'.

    It shouldn't be the limit of our ambitions though and if we don't win the Cup then he should definitely go, perennial top 4 finishes are impressive but ultimately pointless if that's all we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    The words entrenched and stubborn seem more appropriate, and with every big defeat with the exception of the Chelsea game he has been more keen to blame the players than himself, as if if they'd followed his game plan this wouldn't have happened. Well the players look like scared rabbits because of a lack of a game plan...should they individually be performing better yes of course but its certainly not the case that its the players letting the manager down.
    I agree even without trophies his ability to get us into the top four has been exceptional especially in the last couple of seasons, but I doubt his ability to push on from there and it looks on the pitch against the top sides that the players doubt that as well. He constantly looks like a figure running into a brick wall and can't understand what is going on, not through stupidity he's without doubt one of the most intelligent men in football but because he's a prisoner of his own purist principles that seem more like a shackle than at any time during his 17 years here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    The words entrenched and stubborn seem more appropriate, and with every big defeat with the exception of the Chelsea game he has been more keen to blame the players than himself, as if if they'd followed his game plan this wouldn't have happened. Well the players look like scared rabbits because of a lack of a game plan...should they individually be performing better yes of course but its certainly not the case that its the players letting the manager down.
    I agree even without trophies his ability to get us into the top four has been exceptional especially in the last couple of seasons, but I doubt his ability to push on from there and it looks on the pitch against the top sides that the players doubt that as well. He constantly looks like a figure running into a brick wall and can't understand what is going on, not through stupidity he's without doubt one of the most intelligent men in football but because he's a prisoner of his own purist principles that seem more like a shackle than at any time during his 17 years here


    It looks that way. Stubbornness confused with conviction and faith in a system that clearly isn’t working. We know we’re vulnerable to a counter attack if we lose the ball high up the pitch but we continue to play the same way. There is no organisation. Everton’s first goal was similar to Swansea’s in the way that we stood off the man attacking our wing and allowed him to play in a great ball. No pressure at all and it was early in the match. Why weren’t they prepared for that and warned against giving our opponents too much space? It’s like watching boxer constantly getting flawed by right uppercuts and instead of his trainer showing him how to avoid the punch, he’s telling him to go in the ring again but show more passion and spirit. That’s not going to stop the pummelling and only leads to a serious loss of confidence. That’s what we’re seeing on the pitch. The players look confused and don’t have a clue what they should be doing out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFC Leveller View Post
    This is what a lot of fans are complaining about. This video highlights how tactically inept the manager is. If a pundit can see it, then why cant a man with 30+ years of management see it?

    This is what Wenger gets 7 million quid for? I could do the same job for a bag of chips
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    This is what Wenger gets 7 million quid for? I could do the same job for a bag of chips
    No. No you couldn't.

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    Guess we will have to petition Arsenal to get me the job then..
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    My personal feeling is that the players know the system doesnt work. Not all the time and not against well marshalled teams. They dont want to speak because they know what Wenger is like when he feels slighted. A strong team with a strong bond would send a delegation to him, unified in their convictions, but we have all worked in environments where the leader is unyielding and vindictive. My guess is that the players are just going through the motions. The senior players having seen other setups are just taking the cheque while hoping for the best.
    The person at fault is the man who has seen whats worked. has used it to great success, but is now headlong tilting at Windmills, even though all he gets is battered and bruised. He just gets up mounts his horse and does it all over again. Once Don Quixote says," just once this windmill will fall and the world will see that I was right all along".

    We are all doomed I tells ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    Guess we will have to petition Arsenal to get me the job then..
    That would mean you being in the stadium for home games and you know what happens then...

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