The Bitter Truth?

[Bumble]

when you compare arsenal to liverpool, its alot closer than you realise in 2013 we earned about £47m more in revenue than liverpool, despite getting the CL money and higher average attendance. of course both liverpool and everton are run as businesses. they arent bankrolled like city or the chavs.

also i believe with transfer fees they are often paid in instalments over the length of the contract, so it is possible that we didnt give all that money to Real in one go and hence we always seemed to be owed money by Barca.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

when you compare arsenal to liverpool, its alot closer than you realise in 2013 we earned about £47m more in revenue than liverpool, despite getting the CL money and higher average attendance. of course both liverpool and everton are run as businesses. they arent bankrolled like city or the chavs.

also i believe with transfer fees they are often paid in instalments over the length of the contract, so it is possible that we didnt give all that money to Real in one go and hence we always seemed to be owed money by Barca.

I realise about doing it in instalments but the money still has to be there, we made technically have the 120 million but I would be surprised if 100million hasn't been earmarked for paying the club we bought him from, paying his wages etc.

That's why Wenger is adverse to spending big money, because unless you sell them off at a bigger fee than what you bought them for your making a huge financial loss.

One that a club run as a business cannot afford to make

[selassie]

I realise about doing it in instalments but the money still has to be there, we made technically have the 120 million but I would be surprised if 100million hasn't been earmarked for paying the club we bought him from, paying his wages etc.

That's why Wenger is adverse to spending big money, because unless you sell them off at a bigger fee than what you bought them for your making a huge financial loss.

One that a club run as a business cannot afford to make

You are making this sound way more complicated than it needs to be.

Why do you think we moved to the Emirates in the first place? It certainly wasn't to not compete....

[Dein-machine]

You are making this sound way more complicated than it needs to be.

Why do you think we moved to the Emirates in the first place? It certainly wasn't to not compete....

- lets just go back to Highbury, it was so much better then

[Özim]

- lets just go back to Highbury, it was so much better then

Looks like we're going to have no choice, it was the only place where we could compete.

[Niall_Quinn]

Looks like we're going to have no choice, it was the only place where we could compete.

LOL - you must have missed a few decades then.

[Özim]

LOL - you must have missed a few decades then.

Did people bitch about not being able to compete because of money in the 60's too then?

[Power n Glory]

You are making this sound way more complicated than it needs to be.

Why do you think we moved to the Emirates in the first place? It certainly wasn't to not compete....

It really is crazy talk. I have no idea how other clubs survive if we're struggling with a new stadium.

[Niall_Quinn]

Plus, as a follow-up, we will sell a player rather than let the contract run down. If we'd had RvP this season who knows he would have been injured. Liverpool kept Suarez, not entirely a similar situation but still a wantaway player they went to extreme lengths to keep on the pitch banging in the goals for them.

Not specifically related, but on the other hand - had we not sold RvP then Fergie wouldn't have won the title and Moyes might not have been hired. Funny old game.

[Globalgunner]

Gents Business 101. You never pay salaries from your savings. Its non sustainable. Salaries are considered recurrent expenditure and will be paid from annual income such as matchday revenue and other commercial income

HCZ s proposal that we saved up 120m over 5 years just to pay Ozils wages is not the way businesses are run. Yes you could buy a player from your savings as that could be considered an investment but again you would prefer to include it in your expenses, for accounting reasons, especially if the payments are instalments.

We have 120m and yet to hear some people on this forum it makes as a poor outfit. That is more than almost all the other EPL clubs combined, If we are in dire straits then everybody else must be functionally bankrupt. A football club does not need to make a profit, unless either it wishes to satisfy shareholders or it is investing in something...eg a stadium. We have not declared a dividend in years so no shareholder has taken a dime out of the club except maybe sitting fees for directors. In a publicly listed company you cant just do what you want even if you own 67% of the shares like Kroenke does

The facts are available. Just visit AST instead of posting hooey