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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Depends on whom your referring to really, if your talking about Wilshere he's on 55k a week and Raheem Sterling who is 19 is on 60k a week at Liverpool. It's not Wenger, that's the money culture in the sport.
    Wilshere is on something like £80-£80k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    And why wouldn't we be able to match those wages?
    erm because we can't afford to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    erm because we can't afford to.
    Why wouldn't we be able to? It's quite simple, spend too freely and waste money when unnecessary, you've got nothing left in the pot for when the crunch hits. If we stopped dolling out big contracts to players based on potential and out of some paranoid, pre-emptve, protective strike as you say, we might actually have money left in the pot for players that have fulfilled their potential and at a greater risk of getting poached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Why wouldn't we be able to? It's quite simple, spend too freely and waste money when unnecessary, you've got nothing left in the pot for when the crunch hits. If we stopped dolling out big contracts to players based on potential and out of some paranoid, pre-emptve, protective strike as you say, we might actually have money left in the pot for players that have fulfilled their potential and at a greater risk of getting poached.
    As i've just explained players at clubs like Liverpool who are even younger than ours are on similar wages, it's not about paying too much for potential it's unfortunately just a sign of the times.

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    Wilshere isn't potential, he's been a first teamer for over three years now. Therefore he's on the same wage as players like Rosicky and Cazorla.

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    Ozil who arguably is no better than Fabregas is on 160k a week and cost us 43 million pound, so when Wenger talks about who can improve the squad you are looking at players that will cost anything between 35 and 50 million in transfer fees and about 200k in wages; it doesn't work not for a football club that wants to be self-sustaining. Our turnover is 270 million a year and almost two thirds of that is eaten up straight away in players wages, the kind of spending you think we are capable of of just isn't possible.
    When you consider the 20million debt on the stadium plus other overheads without player sales you are just about breaking even every year.
    Last edited by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie; 11-04-2014 at 05:50 PM.

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    in fact the turnover isn't even as high as that it was 254 million last year

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    And sadly that's the bitter truth, it would be nice to believe that we are just beholden to one man's intransigence and the board don't care enough to do something about him. That would be lovely to think that when Wenger goes things are going to get better for us and we will start signing players, but the reality is that nothing comes from nothing. Things won't improve when Wenger goes, they will get worse because our squad will get thinner and thinner because the wages will go up and up and up and we will have to release more and more players on the periphery to afford the main bulk of the squad, the same small squad will be beasted and we will have the same situation again....even with all the tactical nous and match preparation you think will change things.

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    What a pointless debate going on... similar to the debate or comment about having Ramsey killed after last season
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    What a pointless debate going on... similar to the debate or comment about having Ramsey killed after last season
    I know. One last shot at this and the I'm done. One last point.

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