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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    I doubt anyone on this site wants to discuss Mourinho but it was bought into this thread by someone else suggesting that our manager doesn't act like him - he does.
    Like us he doesn't have quality forwards so he went into the modweek game against the current La Liga leaders with a game plan to win over 2 legs. I don't like the negativity either but its exactly what we did earlier this year at Dortmund & Napoli aswell as against Bayern when we needed to score goals - Mourinho wouldn't have been that negative.
    Mourinho won the Champions league with Porto through tactical nous & NO cheque book along with stopping the Barca romp in Spain with their supposed unbeatable team by spending far less than his predecessors.

    Mournho is a spoilt brat whom I would love to come across in a dark alley but he is a winner. He breeds that mentality. We have a manager who thinks 4th is wonderful & we should all be so grateful whilst showing his ambitious side by buying a 32 year old Swede with a bad back to save a crumbling season in Jan. Mourinho saw the same need & bought Matic back. Don't say because he had the money, this wasn't a Bale deal! - we should & could have paid that aswell.
    That is a phenomenally awesome post. I despise Mourinho as a human being but that man is a tactical genius. People blaming him for playing boring football havent seen Arsenal play the last few years. We probably play one of the most boring form of football I can remember watching. I dont mind being bored if it was part of a tactical plan to something effective. It unfortunately is not... we have no plan B. Sometimes I wonder if we even have a Plan A!
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    I despise Mourinho as a human being but that man is a tactical genius.
    On yeah. Parking 10 men behind the ball is brilliant. BRILLIANT!
    Particularly impressive how he's lost to Palace, Sunderland and Villa in the run in too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    On yeah. Parking 10 men behind the ball is brilliant. BRILLIANT!
    Particularly impressive how he's lost to Palace, Sunderland and Villa in the run in too.
    It's not that simple though is it, you seem to make things out to be so simplistic.

    It not just sticking 10 men behind the ball, it's about organising the team using tactics, making players adopt certain rolesm efficiency and nullifying the other teams strengths, he tends to do this pretty well in big games and in my book that's good management and better than just sending your players on their way and telling them to just pass it all day and play your own game and you'll win.

    If it was as easy as you think everyone would be doing it and getting the results and success he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    On yeah. Parking 10 men behind the ball is brilliant. BRILLIANT!
    Particularly impressive how he's lost to Palace, Sunderland and Villa in the run in too.
    I'll just leave this here... Mourinho: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/jo...ainer_781.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    I'll just leave this here... Mourinho: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/jo...ainer_781.html
    Not quite sure how that's a response to my post but OK...
    No-one is denying he's not a great manager, but parking the bus ain't tactical genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Not quite sure how that's a response to my post but OK...
    No-one is denying he's not a great manager, but parking the bus ain't tactical genius.
    If parking the bus and winning was such an easy job, Allardyce would have 20 CL's titles in the bag. Parking the bus away from home, playing to your strengths and analyzing the opposition is different than parking the bus and hoping to win. By just 'parking the bus', he has outscored us this season already by 5 goals.
    And if anyone recalls his time at RM, I do not recall him parking the bus. He plays his best team to the best tactic, according to the situation. He has a Plan A, B, C, D, E & F. We have motivation, spirit and determination to pass the ball sideways. I know which one I'd pick as a football fan.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    If parking the bus and winning was such an easy job, Allardyce would have 20 CL's titles in the bag.
    Well, not really. Having a billionaire-fuelled squad helps.

    He's obviously a good manager and and a good tactician. I do think some of the fawning over him is OTT, but that might just be my blind hatred of him talking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Well, not really. Having a billionaire-fuelled squad helps.

    He's obviously a good manager and and a good tactician. I do think some of the fawning over him is OTT, but that might just be my blind hatred of him talking
    To be fair he is a massive dick splat.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Well, not really. Having a billionaire-fuelled squad helps.

    He's obviously a good manager and and a good tactician. I do think some of the fawning over him is OTT, but that might just be my blind hatred of him talking
    I would buy that statement if he hadnt won trophies with Porto and Inter. I do not believe he had a 'billionaire fueled net spend' when at those teams.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    That is a phenomenally awesome post. I despise Mourinho as a human being but that man is a tactical genius. People blaming him for playing boring football havent seen Arsenal play the last few years. We probably play one of the most boring form of football I can remember watching. I dont mind being bored if it was part of a tactical plan to something effective. It unfortunately is not... we have no plan B. Sometimes I wonder if we even have a Plan A!

    The one thing you can't argue with Mourinho is his success. Everything else is up for debate. He is the world master at stopping other teams playing. He has created a cult around himself and has a management style that is incredibly effective if players buy into this (unlike they did at RM). But he is an enemy of football in the sense that his motivation begins and ends at himself. He clearly feels no responsibility towards the game that has given him success - and for a manager of his pedigree to play the way he does, and behave the way he does is inexcusable. Comparing Wenger to Mourinho in terms of custodianship of the game is like comparing Nelson mandela with Robert Mugabe.
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