On yeah. Parking 10 men behind the ball is brilliant. BRILLIANT!Originally Posted by fakeyank
Particularly impressive how he's lost to Palace, Sunderland and Villa in the run in too.
On yeah. Parking 10 men behind the ball is brilliant. BRILLIANT!
Particularly impressive how he's lost to Palace, Sunderland and Villa in the run in too.
Come on, dude. Where do you think all that talk about football economics and policy comes from? After 18 years of watching Wenger, do you think he’s playing his cards close to his chest or is he fully displaying his ideals about the way football should be? He’s far from robotic and bland in his press conferences. Post-Match reactions he’ll keep it low key, but we’ve had years to hear him talk about the football and he’s never struck me as a guy too shy to talk about what he really feels when it comes to football.
Not really, that's what blind faith is about, he's more like their Dad than their manager and seems to mollycoddle them. He's been known for persisting with players for far too long when clearly they weren't good enough plenty of times.
I didn't mention you by name, but you open yourself up to such an accusation with your reaction to Wenger's inoccuous post match comments after Hull. I agree with your criticisms of the man, but i think there is a point where frustration boils over into antipathy. I want him to go, this is on record....i don't clench my fist every time he makes a statement in a press conference.
It's not that simple though is it, you seem to make things out to be so simplistic.
It not just sticking 10 men behind the ball, it's about organising the team using tactics, making players adopt certain rolesm efficiency and nullifying the other teams strengths, he tends to do this pretty well in big games and in my book that's good management and better than just sending your players on their way and telling them to just pass it all day and play your own game and you'll win.
If it was as easy as you think everyone would be doing it and getting the results and success he does.
There seriously aren't enough hours in the day to do that.
But yes, I do have a problem with the way he (and he's not the only one, but he's by far the worst) constantly jumps on any opportunity, or invents one if there isn't one, to criticise the club he claims to support.
It's like the Daily Mail - there is a sensible debate to be had about immigration but that doesn't mean that all immigrants are ***** who are after our women and jobs. Wenger has his failings, many people feel it's time for him to move on. That doesn't mean that he's completely clueless and everything he does or says is ridiculous.
We could finish this season in 4th (as usual!) and with the FA Cup (which would be new, and very welcome). I'd have taken that at the start of the season, I think many of us would. Is a sense of perspective too much to ask rather than all this hyperbole?
It's not vitriol for starters. Stop taking segments of my posts without quoting the rest. You miss the most important parts.
He doens't have to say anything in public. It's the action on the pitch that matters and when you consider the fact that he said in 2010 that we were investigating the injury crisis then and 4 years later we're hearing the same lines, you have to wonder what in the world is going on. If his actions and words never lined up, then fair enough.
He says what his opinion is but i am specifically refering to his post-match press conferences. I can predict with a fair degree of certainty what he will say, and that the words "belief", "quality" and "spirit" will feature heavily. He gives you his opinion on the economic statement of football (most of which i agree with) in press conferences but for me they are completley removed from his performance as manager. As you know i am still not convinced we have had any more to spend that we have actually spent, so my criticism of him is based on how well he has invested and what he has done with the player resources he already has rather than his footballing philosophies.
But as i say a lot of his statements to the press especially those that come after matches tend to be very generic.
I agree
I'm consistent whether we win or lose, you may not have mentioned my name but it's clear from this thread who was being referred to. My comments after the Hull game are largely pointing out double standards and how he always twists things in favour of his players which IMO is one of the problems, although not specifically related to his players in this instance I admit, he opens himself up to criticism by saying one thing one day and something completely different the next.
As I've said his interviews and post match conferences do annoy me because they just reinforce the fact we're not going to see any change, I find this hard to ignore, in many ways it would be better if he said nothing at all, at least he wouldn't rub the perceived failure in our faces.
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