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Thread: Are the doubters wrong about Wenger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    I'm sorry what's your basis for suggesting that Suarez has developed at all under Rodgers, his scoring rate was very similar to what it was when he was being managed by Kenny Dalglish.
    In my eyes Brendan Rodgers will have a lot of adapting to do to his back line and midfield in order to make them competitive next season when he has continental fixtures to contend with. It remains to be seen whether he is up to the task.
    He's scored and created a lot more (his scoring rate isn't the same he only got 17 from 39 for Dalglish, he's got 30 in both following seasons in less games this and marginally more last), I'd say he's improved significantly in the last couple of years as a player to now being considered one of the best players around.

    Time will tell, but you'll probably find he'll try and address the issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Nobody likes you any more. It was fine when you were losing but that's all over now and you brought this on yourself.
    Uhuh.

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    I agree, go away we can't take pity on you now your going to be league champions. Now your part of the problem :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Good football is remembered more than effective football

    Take for instance 1974 World Cup. Which side is remembered more the winners or the Dutch side of Rep, Cruyff and Neeskens and their commitment to "total football".

    Same with West Germany's other World Cup, 1954 it was all about the Hungarians and in 1990 the whole tournament was written off as a turgid bore fest with only Cameroon remembered with any fondness
    Sorry but that's rubbish, 1990 was a great tournament, IMO one of my favourite World Cups. Italy and West Germany were outstanding and there were some real classic matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    He wasn't the only fan of italian football then because it was the glamour league with most of the big stars playing there, so no wonder he wanted to watch it. no one is debating the art of defending over attacking. what is being discussed is playing a style of football you expect from a bottom half team in order to succeed every week, when your resources enable you to do so much more. at real madrid he had a team already full of attacking players, he had no choice but to. that was one club that he couldn't get to bow to his every whim. it's an institution far bigger than his ego, which is a rare thing to find. mourinho would garner more respect if he tried a bolder approach in how he set up his teams but he's too afraid to do that. it's the reason why someone like federer is loved by more people than pete sampras who was a machine that churned out wins relentlessly.
    What’s crowd pleasing and fan favouritism is totally different to efficiency and being effective. That’s not the debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    He's scored and created a lot more (his scoring rate isn't the same he only got 17 from 39 for Dalglish, he's got 30 in both following seasons in less games this and marginally more last), I'd say he's improved significantly in the last couple of years as a player to now being considered one of the best players around.

    Time will tell, but you'll probably find he'll try and address the issues.
    Was looking at the leading scorer table. Suarez on 30, Sturridge on 20. That's insane. 50 goals between the pair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    The Sam Allardyce of Saville Row.
    Speaking of which have you ever read Not Big Sam on twitter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Was looking at the leading scorer table. Suarez on 30, Sturridge on 20. That's insane. 50 goals between the pair.
    I know right. Who would have thought having top strikers would win you the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Sorry but that's rubbish, 1990 was a great tournament, IMO one of my favourite World Cups. Italy and West Germany were outstanding and there were some real classic matches.
    I think that's an opinion you will find yourself in the minority about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Speaking of which have you ever read Not Big Sam on twitter?
    No, but I have a feeling I will now.
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